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General DiscussionStats dont lie.

Stats dont lie. in General Discussion
Zhn

    So I think its time to get rid of all the expensive items. Dota bubble will pop soon.
    As everyone can see the declining trend. I think its more to do with psychology as well. As many people are leaving so u feel that seeping into u and the interest just declines.
    I think this trend will continue till the TI this year. When the prize pool will be significantly lower than previous years, the players will realize the reality. The blow will be even bigger if pro players /teams hang up the boots. The game will be the same but the mentality of the players will change hence fewer players.
    If something drastic happens then I dont know.

    If u don't agree please weigh in. All minds open.

    Clippy

      It's all about supply vs demand.

      What I'm saying is, no, I will not sell my arcana's because they have been and will always be at least the amount I paid for them.

      And the prize pool for TI8 might be slightly lower since the final total for TI7 was insane, but it won't be that much lower. In fact it might even be higher, they've always increased year after year by about 5 million.

      Shou

        Valve is EXTREMELY good at making the ti prize pool increase.

        Shou

          You also clearly don't understand how the market fucking works.
          The prices on rare items, let's take mace of aeons for example, is only increasing. People are relatively confident that dota will be around and confident that there r people who will purchase something like that so the price increases. You will know when to sell ur shit when the prices dip downwards a bit on those type of high-end items.

          Clippy

            The only time that a price for an item ever decreases is when people don't want it. Take for example the ultra rare necro immortal from TI7. When they first came out, they were rare and everyone had that "holy shit this looks cool as hell" factor. They were selling at a peak price of $55. However, a few months after when people realized that anyone over level 1000 had like 200 treasures and had opened at least 3 of them (myself included), their value went down significantly. Now they're like $14 lmao, glad I sold mine when I did. Items like the Mace of Aeons and literally every arcana will never lose their current value. That is because people actually want them because they are considered to be rare. Having a super high price or a super low drop rate will ensure that an item will maintain its value.

            TL:DR - The prices on badass items won't go down because everyone else likes them too.

            chicken spook,,,,

              guys rush rapier on every hero, stats dont lie

              Clippy

                Truth, rapier is highest win rate item which means its core on everyone now.

                idk what half the champio...

                  All they need to do is slightly decrease the cut valve takes and increase the percentage which goes into the prizepool.

                  Emperor Xu Mail

                    ^he's correct. that way the prizepool will always top the previous year's. A slight loss incurred is better than losing face as an ever-growing game.

                    The Legendary Phenom

                      Valve create ti to earn from sold items/etc. Not the other way around.

                      Tu tayta

                        Stats don't lie. People just don't know how to interpret them.

                        Jacked

                          you mean in-game digital items are actually bought/sold as investment and appreciate in value?

                          Autumnus

                            Tbh, players who stopped playing dota are mostly sub 2k

                            Shou

                              Yes the steam market is an actual economy

                              Väinämöinen

                                lol wat

                                3-4ks stopped playing, the 1ks are taking over.

                                have you seen dotafails videos lately (dotawtf)

                                i year ago many clips where higher/intermediate clips, nowadays all you see is clips with 5 cores on both sides.

                                Grimm

                                  1 year ago the channel was less famous and only the higher player with the most time played knew the channel
                                  but now everyone know abut it and it has become a meme , so yeah there's a lot of clip of low mmr which wasn't the case before, so what ?