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General Discussionbs in 2016-17 lul

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white boy summer

    srysly valve this hero is underpowered af the only reason it exists is to make ppl lose whose team picked him

    arin

      yea fuck you getting hit by a dagon for literally 1000+ damage in min 20 is sure fun

      Beks

        ???
        its op hero

        Shou

          ^not op
          But he is not the worst hero.

          BenaoLifedancer

            You have to go dagon build. Anything else won't work.

            Beks

              it is op daddy
              if u go midas and farm radi u gona lose game
              if u go blademail cyclon and make ur carry some space and then go for radi bigger chance to win

              Shou

                ^especially in the deathball meta if bs killer ganks start up first then he can win, but if the enemy abuses that small window to trash ur lanes and they make the gap too large for bs killer ganks to comeback then its hard. I dont think radi is good on bs anymore, i wud go blademail force bkb aghs solar/dagon/abyssal/ac pike

                Shou

                  You can go aether with dagon force and shit also sounds nice. Or pike upgrade to force for more stats/right click power.

                  BenaoLifedancer

                    after 7.0 i dont recommend aether. get scepter and sb purely for mobility. You need to be a ninja for bs to work in the latter part of the game

                    Impulsive 3k addict.

                      If your team has half a brain get crimson/pipe on bs. If they dont go eblade dagon sb.

                      oykman

                        I beg to differ. Crimson, pipe and force are literally the most useless items you could build to a bs.

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                        Cheap Laugh Guy

                          Can't BS go a standard Phase SnY Blademail build?
                          He can even go hard carry and buy a Manta with such strong talent tree

                          Sarllo

                            go dota wtf and watch blood + avatar earth combo hahaha

                            Shou

                              ^u dont need an earth spirit if u have forcestaff
                              Also @oyk with level 3 rupture force staff deals 360 pure dmg, which is okay. However if u have bloodrage active on self, this becomes 504 pure dmg, quite respectable. With the rupture dmg talent this becomes 621 pure dmg, definetley very good. If we want to go all the way, we can bloodrage self and the target, then forcestaff with the talent, to get a maximum dmg of 799 pure dmg, which is absurd for only 2000 ish gold. It also gives mana, which bs loves, and allows u to save allies and be mobile and all the other gr8 things force staff gives you.

                              Shou

                                Bloodseeker cant carry on the level of current popular carries like lifestealer and jugg, they just stand still when u rupture them and manfight. Imo utility, gank heavy, early game centric bs is the best way to go, then u can transition to carry items, kinda like a spirit breaker.

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                                  oykman

                                    @Daddy i won't accept any kind of criticism over my opinion on blood's items. I play this hero constantly for a year now (since he has been my favorite back in 2014) and i know force staff is viable only versus clock and even then it's not necessary if you have the gold lead. There is a huge difference between theory and action and that's one of the reasons that i pay little to no attention to maths and algorithms when it comes down to a strategy game. You are a true example of a maths-guy who presents to me some numbers over my experience with facts. I bet the people who work for Valve are all 4k players at most even with all their knowledge about mechanics, match-ups and spell damage.

                                    The only fucking thing i want for my bloodseeker to reach up to 9k is to simply add to his passive skill the old blood bath, make his bloodrage silence the target upon it's cast on, reduce blood-rite's time to half, make his ultimate work again on storm's ulti, morph's waveform etc. and also make it UNDODGEABLE FOR ANY BLINK DISTANCE as it used to be.

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                                    tb~

                                      im new i have never seen bs before haha

                                      Shou

                                        What abt bs forcestaff in practice makes it not hold up to theory?
                                        For example, in theory bf is a gr8 item on pa, because it gives good regen in lane, and accelerates her farm a lot, both things pa lack. However in practice, pa doesnt need the farm, and benefits more from early game items to suit her mid game power curve like deso for dps and helm for regen.
                                        What abt bs forcestaff being able to deal up to 799 pure dmg if u bloodrage urself and the target and have the rupture talent, makes this not good. With dagon this becomes ridiculous.

                                        oykman

                                          Just show me a decent amount of games with seeker that you or any player built on him force and won and we're okay. :)

                                          Shou
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