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General Discussionta vs viper

ta vs viper in General Discussion
faw

    max meld? what do

    Nylio

      abbandon?
      Nah just use psi blades a lot and use your level 6 slow to prevent him for going on you
      Its a hard matchup but if you are better them him and know how to farm you can 4 hit him 18 mins in game

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        NeGo

          Nah. Just find farm. Viper is good against TA only early game. He cant do anything mid game as long as you find farm.

          one syllable anglo-saxon

            max psIONIC TRAP niBBA

            Goshwa

              Those TA Games... Waga is that you? I'm actually curious on that match up as well.

              Btw is that a serious question considering your MMR and win-rate on TA think you would know better, but if you are serious this is hypothetical I was thinking maxing psi blade and 1 point into meld to avoid harass but he has that annoying corrosive skin, I honestly dunno, haven't played that match up before but those are just my thoughts. Hopefully someone who has played that match up in the higher MMR's can answer for you and let me know as well. :D

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              faw

                n actually a serious question, because its one of the few lineups that hit me pretty hard

                llllllllllllll

                  maxing meld gimps your farm later on and it's not even that good vs viper

                  shit matchup honestly, I wouldn't pick TA into this

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                    psi blades? farm jungle? ez?

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                    Goshwa

                      Aw really, was hoping for someone to tell me it was possible, as I know Venomancer totally shits on TA was hoping if played right you could take on Viper.

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                      NeGo

                        Wtf. I never realized you were 5K. No words would persuade you if it came from a 3K scrub. My bad.

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                          oh wow just look how much impact he had rofl https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3167262715 I love when noobs pick it to "counter" ta easy win

                          ☻

                            when he feels dominate on line just ask your supports to smoke gang him twice and viper is done while TA gonna farm fast

                            FHigh420HighE

                              that dazzle was such a little bitch, I hate that shit, hate roamers

                              Scorpio

                                Switch lanes maybe

                                queen's speech

                                  Viper beats ta in lane, but ta absolutely demolishes viper in mid/late game
                                  Never max meld on ta, you just can farm neutrals, just leech and stack ancients or jungle, then farm it

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                                  Jacked

                                    max e

                                    ywn

                                      max e LUL

                                      ywn

                                        max e + meld LUL

                                        Jacked

                                          max e and buy 5 salves

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                                          dioxgamingpro

                                            desolator and meld.

                                            viper can still win he's more faster and can buy dust and Ta can't run awaly.

                                            Nylio

                                              Actually the only time you max meld as a TA is against ember, you get 1 skill point against QOP but QOP is shit unless you are sumail

                                              ywn

                                                Excuse me? my mmr is 2.3k and according to valve i am above average (2.1k) so my opinion must be respected and my analysis on the game is legit and im going on factual basis. I dont like to kiss ass of any pro without any reason. U have no right to critisize it u bastard .

                                                bearcat0611

                                                  btw Diox viper is one of the slowest heroes in the game.

                                                  dioxgamingpro

                                                    how dumb can you get? he can buy yasha and boots of travel.

                                                    and BTW he's *FASTER* at killing ta.

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                                                      bearcat0611

                                                        it would help if you knew how to english so people could understand what you say, and I'm pretty sure I could beat you as a ta against your viper.

                                                        ywn

                                                          NA math PogChamp ?

                                                          queen's speech

                                                            there are approximately no heroes that beat TA
                                                            she matches up ridiculously well vs almost any hero

                                                            Dire Wolf

                                                              And ask people to gank mid. Vipers so bad vs multiple heroes. Slow, won't have passive maxed yet to slow attackers, has no burst to counter you. He will just die to stuns.

                                                              queen's speech

                                                                alright maybe not 1v1 mid, but in the game overall

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                                                                dunce

                                                                  pull creeps to tower -> last hit -> buy blight stone -> go to jung before min 3 or stack at min 3
                                                                  thats what ccnc did, anyway

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                                                                  Feachairu

                                                                    ^i think if he's not that aggresive you can double aggro pull
                                                                    ask your support to stack some camps,lvl 2-3 just go to jungle directly and wait for the wave to push (or maybe let your support in lane)

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