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General DiscussionLOl wtf with this mm ?

LOl wtf with this mm ? in General Discussion
Vaikiss`742.

    so i decided to play some solo mm games today and i noticed that ppls with 10-30 games get matched into games with/against me

    wtf

    everyone 600+ games and there one guy in enemy team with 200
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/244035477

    next game same guy with 200 games + other guy with 60 games in enemy team while rest has 600+ games minimum
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/244067077

    14 and 41 game noobs in my team again while enemy team has 600+ games each minimum
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/244130301

    same 14 games noob again in next game
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/244135757

    is solo mm broken ?

    Pandamonium(You Died)

      Amount of games != skill in Valve MM.
      If you play really well 10-15 first games, you can easily get into very very high MM.
      Another factor is that noone plays solo so in order to make a game of some sort it takes player from a margin too wide.

      Vroksnak

        i made a smurf, bearman2k13, just playing with irls.
        I got 6 wins and 4 loses. Im playing vs guys with 400 wins, logic wtf?

        Zumi

          Yes Solo Que is flawed, but so is Public MM.
          There are 2 different Mmr.
          There is a Solo que mmr, and public mmr.

          Also notice how you're Orange in every game, in Solo Que

          Color shows skills(It is precise not 100% accurate of course) IN SOLO QUE ONLY.

          Orange being the best player on Radiant, and blue being worst.
          Brown being best on Dire, and pink being worst.

          I played over 100 Solo que matches, the first 60 games were easy, I won like 68% of the time. But my last few games I've been getting the most retarded noobs in my team.

          In the end, Solo que is still much better for people that play dota solo compared to Public MM.

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          QQQQ

            Pink is the best and worst player. He is everything. He is the hero solo mm needs.

            waku waku

              wow i could have ended up playing with you if i was on at that time

              Zumi

                @ slarkyyyy yeah edited just for you

                Litbull

                  Pretty sure that if colors actually mean something, blue and pink are the BEST. If you had played CM (aka legit DOTA) anytime...ever.....you would have noticed that pink and blue are the captains.

                  Zumi

                    @ #HNB I have played CM mode and yes Captains are usually Blue & Pink.

                    If you tried solo que for like 20 rounds, you'll see the difference in skills just by looking at the color as I've mentioned.

                    IlVers

                      Hmm just noticed that, and took a look at my last 6 games. I'm either at the top of Radiant or top of Dire, which I think is blue and pink?

                      I'm with HnB with this one. I was most certainly not the worst player in those games. I was also with one other teammate, and he is definitely not better.

                      6_din_49

                        So? How do you know what I'm going to play? Look at my win rates. You think with Rubick or Riki I'm as good as I'm with Nyx or Disruptor?

                        Шеф

                          mm is completely broken there is no way a guy with 60-200 to be good as guy with 600+

                          VAC banned >]

                            look at my last games, played with tards, I lost appetite to play dota for few days again....

                            Zumi

                              @IlVers I meant color meant skills in SOLO QUE only. Not Public MM.

                              @SleepwalkeR it is possible for someone with less games to be better than someone 1000+ games, hence the point of smurfs.

                              IlVers

                                Oh I see.

                                I agree that the mm in Dota is far from ideal, but I'm sure they know it as well. It will take time to get a good system going. Come on it just got out of beta. Things can only go uphill from now on (I hope)

                                Woof Woof

                                  Color shows skills(It is precise not 100% accurate of course) IN SOLO QUE ONLY

                                  ----its random just like match maker

                                  Zumi

                                    ^So have you even played solo que games?

                                    Woof Woof

                                      yes 90%of my games are in solo q since it got released

                                      Fpz

                                        now everyone can be in "Very high" bracket with any of wins after added abbadon

                                        sano

                                          Like 1 week ago I played a solo MM
                                          My mid was a Pudge who had 1 win
                                          1 fucking win
                                          He was a LoL player
                                          We lost.

                                          GameMadeMemad WhatDo

                                            go play AR or RD, That is how you find serious games. AP is just .....

                                            Fpz

                                              http://dotabuff.com/matches/244937741
                                              4 low wins retards in my team
                                              It's not even solo MM

                                              B2

                                                lol, I won't play more dota before they fix the broken MM

                                                Fpz

                                                  to b2: yea... better delete it

                                                  B2

                                                    @FPZ: I already did like 2 weeks ago lol, and dota is the only game that I play, hahaha

                                                    BenaoLifedancer

                                                      @ DESOLATOR: ITS NOT ORANGE THAT IS THE BEST, IT IS BLUE ---> STOP SPREADING LIES YOU FUCKING SCUM

                                                      Big Boost Big Boobs

                                                        mana boots on storms lol guess why you are losing

                                                        pizdec

                                                          gj valve u r the greatest

                                                          Zumi

                                                            @Benao.Pringles.Lifedancer

                                                            I must've got lucky for being brown and orange in like 75% of my solo que games then.

                                                            Can only assume you're Blue most of the time.

                                                            Papa Het

                                                              just had a bloodseeker who build helm of the dominator... i mean... i dont even... what?

                                                              Sentenza

                                                                ^ I assume he dominated Troll or Centaur to interrupt TPing Ruptured enemies.

                                                                Vaikiss`742.

                                                                  yeah because 200 move speed centaur doesnt take 1 hour to get towards hero

                                                                  Sentenza

                                                                    I always use my Force Staff on Centaur.

                                                                    hulton

                                                                      I can't stand the fact that in ALMOST EVERY OTHER GAME I am in has players who disconnect/leave. I also keep getting paired with the type of players, for example, who stack Necro's Sadist over his Death Pulse -_______-

                                                                      Perhaps it is because I only solo queue? Either way Match Making is not conducive to solo players who have a lot of dota experience, yet somehow get bogged down and stuck with clueless fools, therefore, creating this trap.

                                                                      ALSO, I think it would help if there was a recommended skill build next to the recommended items build so players who don't know what they are doing gain more of an idea.

                                                                      Lastly, make it an option to reset stats completely if one so chooses. It might help with minimizing the overabundance of "smurf" accounts from being created.

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                                                                      hulton

                                                                        ^ hey that is nice to know ^

                                                                        Josh  :D

                                                                          HOORAY!!!!!!!!!

                                                                          Papa Het

                                                                            http://dotabuff.com/matches/246382061

                                                                            Nothing changed. Just played another round of random draft with completely incompetent pieces of shit. I played disruptor, of course lastpick because the other 4 braindead players chose hardfuckingcarries and axe. That was no where near a matchup between balanced players. Also fun I had to play mid against a 2300 games player (I outplayed him though).

                                                                            Still: Where again was that system balaned if it puts me against such a player? I mean, wtf?

                                                                            Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                                                              @papa het
                                                                              That is some low level game.

                                                                              Papa Het

                                                                                How do I deserve that? I'm not bad for my level and yet, this?! What the fuck man I've never seen anything like that :(

                                                                                Vaikiss`742.

                                                                                  maybe patch has to be applied to main client first to have changes lmao ?