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eXcel

    Popularity rise on lich is disgusting

    Jay Ashborne

      ^Agreed.

      doodad

        Good riddance, Soul Keeper. Good riddance.

        Rocket

          Win rate drop on Lich is just as disgusting :)

          Totentanz to The King: M ...

            It probably dropped because people though that Aghs on Lich would be an "auto win" so they skipped their Mek which secretly won them their games.

            Faded

              dat 10%

              [Lk].Zano

                10 fucking %...holy shit.

                Meanwhile in Abaddon country http://dotabuff.com/heroes/abaddon

                yiran

                  http://dotabuff.com/heroes/vengeful-spirit

                  this doesn't make sense. she gets buffed and her pick rate AND win rate drops what

                  Rocket

                    yiran: see the other threads about her.

                    6_din_49

                      She probably has like 100% win rate with ~25% pick rate.

                      KarmaBaby

                        Her popularity dropped because of other heroes like lich, but her win rate has dropped less than 1%. In one day this doesn't mean sqaut.

                        Mac_Lilypad [NL]

                          Just go check kotol of the keeper of the light:.
                          http://dotabuff.com/heroes/keeper-of-the-light

                          He is played 3 times at much as pre-patchs

                          Kryptnyt

                            Sven can't lose anymore with that starting damage

                            Satellizer

                              Luna's wr down from 53% to 50%

                              what the fuck

                              playhard

                                Luna got nerfed.

                                I have to say I agree with the stupid people on Lich. Everyone tries to rush Aghs and win rates are going to the shitter for Lich.

                                mongoloid

                                  TB is still as strong as before at pushing, only scrub tiers relied on the OP-ness of reflection to win their lanes

                                  nlnj_a

                                    http://dotabuff.com/heroes/lycan

                                    Lol Lycan win rates drop 6% because of the 100/200/300 hp nerf?
                                    Maybe it is because of the Necrominion book giving 400xp/gold too?

                                    Kryptnyt

                                      Tusk confirmed hard life hero

                                      Shaun

                                        @Z Z Z Z Z. The strength nerf on TB is actually a real backlash to his pushing. Every illusion has less HP, net HP loss is a lot higher, and so to counter-push is a lot easier. Plus the lich armour on towers with lich buff is a big nerf to pushing in general, and KotL's amazing anaghims upgrade boosting his usage is a massive TB nerf because that heroes AoE counter push is seriously good against him.

                                        All in all, TB is a lot lot weaker now, but he can still out carry most heroes provided he isn't counterpicked (imo, the recent patch gave some nice new counters for him).

                                        @nlnj_a. I honestly don't see how those 2 nerfs have hurt him so much either. But there was buffs to counterpush in the patch as stated above, so i think it's just a nerf on the lycan style more than the hero that has hurt his win rate?

                                        76561198053522702

                                          Interesting Phoenix drop:
                                          http://dotabuff.com/heroes/phoenix

                                          Shaun

                                            Not really imo. Phoenix is hard countered by high attack speeds early game. Which 2 heroes have got mega popular? Ursa and Huskar.