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yes it will influentiate
unless you put someone else to play calibrations for you, chances are you are gonna get similar MMR to your main account

On this account you will get 3.8k mmr tops. lol you think that any player with any mmr can just smurf and get 4.5k mmr? or above?

I think you didn't understand, i was ok until a little while ago and then i fell from very high to normal, sometimes i got matched against 4k,5k+ in this smurf and i did ok (check some players i got matched with on my last matches). My only question is: if you fuck up, can you still get a good mmr during calibration, even if you have bad wr before?

from very high to normal? well thats about 700 MMR, perhaps you had some games in very high due to people stacking (like a 5k stacking with 2k)

to lose that amount of mmr it would take atleast 10 games

if you did bad with friends but good solo then your solo queue mmr should still be fine, valve said solo and party mmr are independent for unranked as well.

@sleave I think that wouldn't make sense since i had a pretty good transition during my games in very high bracket, flowing normally with win-win-defeat-defeat-win-win-win,etc. I just fucked up once as i said and my only question is if that can somehow relate to my future calibration matches.
Example: guy123 created a smurf, guy123 can easily play in the same level of 4,5k +, guy123 once invited some of his friends to play with him and they were new, guy123 fucked up his winrate and fell from vh bracket, what will be guy123's result during calibration matches and is it possible to him to queue with bad players because of his recent results even though he always played in a pretty high level before? Will guy123 flow like everyone else because normal game's mmr/wr is not related to ranked data?

@lolwut I mean normal matchmaking, i guess for it it'd not be considered different. I just want to know if it can somehow influence on your future mmr after the 10 matches even if you play like you always did in very high bracket and 4k+ or you'll queue with bad players because of the bracket you were in on your normal game data.

Please help meeee

Unranked = normal matchmaking. Your friends won't affect your solo queue unranked mmr.

Valve specifically said that you have a different solo and party ratings for unranked as well as ranked.

I guess you're not understanding my situation, which is way more fucked up than that.
I was in very high doing ok, until this happened, and my recent results were in normal matchmaking even when i'm solo queue and not stacking, so what i'm asking is : if i don't manage to go back to very high before my calibration matches, will i still get good results ? I just wanna know if unranked mmr is somehow connected with ranked mmr, or if its kda data is, my winrate is 50%- so i just wanna know if i will calibrate my matches with people that have the same results i have in unranked data, or it'll be like: "first game everyone noob, got good kda and decent everything after first/second game, will match against my equals again"?

Please i need someone to explain this to me. I really don't understand how both are related or if i will be queued with better players during the transition of the calibrating matches if i do well on the first ones.

http://dotamax.com/player/detail/176937346/?skill=all

You're in Very High, sometimes skill tier doesn't show up on Dotabuff. Or am I still misunderstanding you :p

No, i fucked up everything and i hid my data afterwards D:

get out of my games u garbage smurf. You players 'think' you are doing well because you dont understand what doing well is (or else you would not need to smurf the MM)

Why does it matter so much? Even if you get calibrated at 3k you can stomp your way up.

Just help this garbage smurf understand it, godangit. Will both (normallmm and rankedmm) get somehow connected when i start calibrating? I mean, if i have positive everything i will queue up with positive everything too and if i have fucked up everything i will calibrate with similar people, or i play with better players as the games' results goes on?

@whiteflag cuz it'd be better and more satisfactory if i ended up with more than 3,9k in this new account, or else i'd just smurf it again, so i need help to finally understand if both are trully related, if it is based on the first data you earn in the first game on the calibration matches and that'll decide if you will play with your equal or not i'm totally ok. I JUST WANT THE ANSWER

Of course they're related.
Unranked solo mmr is your hidden mmr and it's your starting point when you play your calibration matches. Your ranked mmr will not differ much from your unranked solo mmr, so if your unranked solo matches are in the normal bracket, your ranked mmr after calibration will be around the same (3200 or less).
Same aplies to party mmr.

Thank you very much, i guess the only option is creating another smurf, this time not messing up again and playing normally, if i manage to maintain 60% till lv13 i'd end up well.

You wont go up or down in the 10calibration games more than 500 points, probably a lot less, but thats like the maximum you will get. So start again, dont play with friends on that account, thats why you now have 2 other accounts to do that. And if you belong there, you will go there. If not, but you smurf youre way up there, you will drop. If you just wanna sell the acc or show off to friends, go for it though... But youre just gonna ruin games if you continue playin on that acc after calibration.

I guess you're right, if you fail, you can just try again. Besides, it's not actually a long road, in the best of the expectations you can spend 50hrs on a smurf til' lv13, so yeah.

dont call urself a smurf after 2-3 wins