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General DiscussionMask of Madness on Lifestealer

Mask of Madness on Lifestealer in General Discussion
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    I was wondering why this is not more common in pub meta. Since LS is based upon doing % based damage of the targets health, more attack speed should seem more vital to him, and the early-medium game bonus of 100 cheap attack speed as well as an added lifesteal seems like a great bargain item for him, not to mention the 30% movespeed bonus he can use to close the gap. Why isn't this more common for him?

    artemis

      Probably because he is squishy early and MoM makes you even squishier. Plus although it increases attack speed for a while, it adds no stats or dmg.

      SalaciousCrome

        Cause it also increases damage against heroes like void, death prophet who are favored picks.

        Zenoth

          MoM actually increases his DPS more than any other item for the same price while active

          It's a great pickup when the opponent team lacks physical burst or BKB piercing spells

          Chrono does fuck it up big time but in most other cases an infest bomb's priority is to burst down the target while Raged, and MoM is great at helping you to do that

          Anthem Blue Cross

            drums., much better

            slippery

              ^ you already have lifesteal

              lifestealer wins most 1v1 equal farm fights.. the hero lacks mobility, farming speed, and lockdown

              sleave

                you won't get mom on lifestealer because of its lifesteal but due to mom's active
                i think it gives more AS than armlet when active

                N4

                  Lifestealer expert here!

                  I've played Lifestealer like this 5-6 times. Its good if you want to carry from 10 minutes (if you have a hard carry who will be there to carry you in lategame).

                  It works best along with other earlygame items such as Medalion of Courage.
                  If you play this tactic. Go jungle with your hard carry on safe lane farming. Try to kill their offlaner with Open Wounds. (jungler's job is quick level and help team, not farm) get madness, phase and medalion as core (its ~4300 gold, you should have it around 11 minutes I think) then make an Armlet because its vital for lifestealer.
                  Then make something crazy like Crystalis into Deadalus (you will not be that strong but you'll deal nice damage)

                  This is not done because Mask of Madness is not a good item overall, you must be careful using it. Its good on Void because nobody can attack him in chrono, its good on sniper amd drow sometimes because they have high range, and they're so squishy that killing 30% faster isn't a big difference.
                  Those 2 heroes are not supposed to take any damage, thats why.
                  Lifestealer, on the other hand, usually goes in first becausehe has rage. Going in first with MoM I don't recommend. If you go in first don't activate it.
                  30% is much btw, its almost 33%, that is 1/3, so if you have 1000 hp, activating MoM makes you 700 hp.

                  Lifestealer is a semi tank, because of the way he works.

                  So this isn't done because its not the best way to build carry with him, all though, it works in pubs if you want to semi-carry, as I said.

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                  Taco

                    Lifestealer mom it's so much international when xboct use it for ganks.

                    N4

                      http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/846924864
                      Here... :)
                      I just played it. But I got all 3 items by 14 minutes, I didn't only farm jungle I was ganking along.

                      Ion Kjell

                        if it is for ganks; I'd go for blink instead. Phase-blink armlet into whatever. BAM into enemy, Open wounds, chew away with rest of team. I mean, since the LS is more or less wasted.... :p

                        N4

                          Getting MoM leaves out survivability items, mqkes you squishy. Its very situational and should never be gotten on the main carry.

                          Dire Wolf

                            It's same reason I hate it on sven, as a melee in the middle of the fight you attract too much attention, it's so easy to burst you down. You'll die before getting good use out of it. Move speed is nice but phase boots and drums or s&y should make you fast enough.