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Kamado Kun

    i dont like to rant about lost matches but this one got me deeply sad..http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/847023315
    shadow shaman calls mid before game start
    someone pick tinker
    shadow shaman dont let tinker go mid
    shadow shaman starts to die to dual lane mid
    shadows shaman keep dying mid until he is 0/10
    shadow shaman dont ask to switch lane, instead he stay there because he is the carry, he said so, i swear
    shadow shaman proceeds to flame all team ends up 2/14 and dont think it was his fault he lost
    i tryied to ask him to let tinker go mid before game start, i tryed to make him switch lane, i ended up muting him and asking my teammates who were all mad and i get them, to do the same as i, in some part of the game i guess we almost got a comeback but they won anyway
    match ended im sad ok
    now wheres my good luck comes in question

    search for a new match who i have in my team? YES shadow shaman, and he pretends to go mid again and go carry , he even makes midas again, luckly this time invoker managed to convince this guy to go top trilane and let him stay mid, and we won, but i was rly sad i got him in my team, who the hell makes shadow shaman carry, i dont know if this ever worked in a spefic pro game but im 100% sure it doesnt work at all in my skill bracket

    additional info: shadow shaman claims to be playing dota for 9 years and he does have many matches, isnt 3k mmr too low for someone playing for that long time, isnt using shaman as "carry" a HUGE freakin mistake when your team need support really bad?

    Seoulmate

      There's nothing wrong with Shaman mid.
      If your team needs a support couldn't you pick a mid and ask him to swap you?

      scratch that, just checked his profile and he's repetitively playing shaman mid. Also if you've got 3k games in dota and you're trying your best to improve, you should be around 5k

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      King of Low Prio

        shadow shaman works fine in the mid

        sleave

          the problem is not rhasta mid but they had tinker who is not as flexible in lanes as rhasta is
          also, rhasta vs TA is a terrible match up imo, he has no ways to take refraction out, can't really contest TA farm and as soon TA gets lv 6 or gets a good rune he will die no matter what

          King of Low Prio

            SS is not put mid to win in a 1v1 matchup

            sleave

              agreed, its to get a fast lv 6 and start pushing shit which clearly he did not
              anyways, again, the problem was he was not flexible, tinker would probably do way better vs TA, could win the lane and snowball from there

              Quick maffs

                Well you always can ancient farm with tinker

                it sucks ass but ...

                sleave

                  yea but that puts your other lanes under disadvantage, being outnumbered. this is normal bracket, people don't know how to 1v2, so yea they would lose even harder

                  rhasta is a strong laner, a good ganker, he could bring way more to the table dual laning than a tinker would ancient farming

                  sleave

                    i think that is actually the only thing that can get me mad
                    you ask mid, no one says a shit, you wait for like 30 secs, then you ping the map, pick and go there, then a guy last picks pudge/sf and demands mid.

                    i would be more ok if they sayd something like "no im mid fuck off noob", but no they dont say a shit
                    everything else is fine for me, i dont care about people bitching, people being bad, but people ruining games in purpose is what kills this game

                    King of Low Prio

                      yea people not saying shit in the picking phase then going

                      GG no support I afk

                      sleave

                        yea, i usually do not instapick mid, i always ask "mid pls", no one says a shit, then i pick

                        yesterday i played with a centaur, our picks so far were void, tinker, meepo (who was kind of support), sven (who said would support but instead bought quelling blade and contested my farm lol), the guy last picked centaur and said "ok no supports? this game is lost", then i asked him why didn't he pick supps if he felt the team was needing, then he said he wouldn't support noobies, i told him that was the reason we didn't pick it either, the guy said "sorry then"

                        surprisingly he was the worst player in the team

                        Szotyi3

                          I just played shaman mid yesterday, vs Ember.
                          http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/845684275

                          Kamado Kun

                            i guess everyone should be able to understand and change roles, you said mid first but someone picked tinker or pudge or sf well you can go mid anyway and have a bad game( maybe even get luck and win) or you just let the guy go mid, but most time ppl will choose a worse lineup rather than a better lineup where you dont get the role/position you want and THAT makes me sad.