I have no idea why people think this is any different then before. I stopped playing for a couple of months and I haven't noticed shit. I still have fun in games (excluding the one sided stomps, and flame wars). This thread like about a thousand others is likely due to losing a game to "meta hero's". I'm in the trench yet I can still derive fun from most games. And I have to say I find it hard to believe a troll wiped you alone, I just can't see it.
~Trench tier shitty ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Edit: If all of you grew some balls and left dota I wouldn't have to see these threads every day( ͝° ͜ʖ͡°)つ
its not about meta heroes its about the motherfuucker effect.
when you are losing a game so bad that you are a motherfuucker, but you def hg 1 time and suddenly you already won.
look at my last slark game if you want, they had jugger almost 6 items, sf with good farm and axe with good farm, while we had slark with shitty farm and rest of the team with nonexistent farm.
yet we defended 2 times (which cost me 2 buybacks) but who cares i got 6k gold from a teamfight, and ez win shortly after.
^u dont understand , winning troll is not hard , but playing whatever u want and having chance to win is hard now ,http://www.dotabuff.com/players/216944874/matches?page=2 please look at the page , when i tryhard i have no problem winning against them ,
One of the games that i was try harding ,http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1382365676 , i dont give a fuck about them if im playing at my best and playing heroes that can rape the enemy , but as havoc said before , few patches ago u could play almost any hero and win , now there r these few heroes that r like 4 tiers above the rest , when tinker was strong it wasnt a big problem he had some weakness , and imo sniper is not as strong as people say but his strength is the fact of hg being hard to push , im not try harding anymore cuz idc about my mmr as much as i did when i reached 5.8k , i tryharded a bit of games to reach 5.1k got about 70% winrate , now im just enjoying my self but really , the fun of making early plays and winning because of playing early game well is denied , and the fun factor of making a comeback is no more because its easy now , i remember the days when someone did a gr8 comeback he would tell his friends about it , now nah nobody cares , i know its a patch like every time it will change soon now , but from all the patches i ever played in my life , this one is the worst
^that was actually exactly my point, but with not a losing example but a example where i won because of it.
and tinker is kinda like sniper that you cant push against him, but now also if you lose a fight while having an advantage you lose the fucking game its insane.
i used to play es go 11 0 and win in 23 minutes, but now i go 11 0, we cant push, game goes to min 50 and i have 13 6 and we lose cuz they got dolla bills
Get good and don't die pushing base kappa. I lose over half my games the same way as you described. I always see my team just destroy early get sprees out the ass and we feed all of them on one push because pick offs/smoking is nonexistent. I've lurked these forums for a while and it's usually the same thing every time. No update is going to make everyone happy, dota is fun af that way. I really don't see myself ever hating the game unless it becomes something entirely different, sure we all love making flame threads like this to vent but we all know we are slaves to da coco.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Edit: Doto has 2 separate buttons Ranked and Unranked. Supposed to solve problems like this where people don't feel like trying but feel like playing. IMO I feel like some hero's should get nerfed a bit but hey I'm a slave to the rave yo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Not trying to argue just saying homie
if you watch closely a 6k game with sniper on one team, if you dont have like 3 very strong cores you just dont push against sniper, cuz you know YOU CANT or you DIE cuz they are smart and sit in base and you cant smoke on them etc etc.
and game turns into 60+ min of whoever has less patience and goes for a play.
this is not fun this it trash
I'm not saying it's the best but c'mon techies started that shit don't blame poor little sniper. I guess this just emphasizes how important an early rax is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Can't win em all, that's why I don't have a 100% win rate.
Actually troll can wipe 5 alone if team goes like this for example two one one and one . I had a troll on my team clear all 5 heros by hisself once while all 4 of us were dead. Kill two towers and raxed enemy team. Keep in mind this Troll did this while we were losing.
I love this meta, You can win in the last f*ck$ng minute When everything seems lost... defend like there is no tomorrow, My team called gg since min 0, over 30k EXP diference but we won
^ exactly people say troll cant kill 5 , troll can kill 5 if u dont kite him , if he keeps rightclicking he have insane lifesteal cuz of dmg and speed and huge ehp and bkb , if u have enough lockdown and enough dmg he is going down , i found ww and lina r the best counters to him, sniper too
How will this patch be remembered? We have had patches were some heroes were string before but I cant think of one worse then this.
No more ranked till 6.84 I think
While I agree troll is easy to win with, he still needs a team that doesn't feed, and a storm that snowballs owns any troll warlord's team anyday.
I've seen your earth spirit it's about a 4/10 only successful from party games, mid lane, and above all South American servers.
I have no idea why people think this is any different then before. I stopped playing for a couple of months and I haven't noticed shit. I still have fun in games (excluding the one sided stomps, and flame wars). This thread like about a thousand others is likely due to losing a game to "meta hero's". I'm in the trench yet I can still derive fun from most games. And I have to say I find it hard to believe a troll wiped you alone, I just can't see it.
~Trench tier shitty ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ლ(◉◡◉ლ)
Edit: If all of you grew some balls and left dota I wouldn't have to see these threads every day( ͝° ͜ʖ͡°)つ
its not about meta heroes its about the motherfuucker effect.
when you are losing a game so bad that you are a motherfuucker, but you def hg 1 time and suddenly you already won.
look at my last slark game if you want, they had jugger almost 6 items, sf with good farm and axe with good farm, while we had slark with shitty farm and rest of the team with nonexistent farm.
yet we defended 2 times (which cost me 2 buybacks) but who cares i got 6k gold from a teamfight, and ez win shortly after.
^u dont understand , winning troll is not hard , but playing whatever u want and having chance to win is hard now ,http://www.dotabuff.com/players/216944874/matches?page=2 please look at the page , when i tryhard i have no problem winning against them ,
One of the games that i was try harding ,http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1382365676 , i dont give a fuck about them if im playing at my best and playing heroes that can rape the enemy , but as havoc said before , few patches ago u could play almost any hero and win , now there r these few heroes that r like 4 tiers above the rest , when tinker was strong it wasnt a big problem he had some weakness , and imo sniper is not as strong as people say but his strength is the fact of hg being hard to push , im not try harding anymore cuz idc about my mmr as much as i did when i reached 5.8k , i tryharded a bit of games to reach 5.1k got about 70% winrate , now im just enjoying my self but really , the fun of making early plays and winning because of playing early game well is denied , and the fun factor of making a comeback is no more because its easy now , i remember the days when someone did a gr8 comeback he would tell his friends about it , now nah nobody cares , i know its a patch like every time it will change soon now , but from all the patches i ever played in my life , this one is the worst
^that was actually exactly my point, but with not a losing example but a example where i won because of it.
and tinker is kinda like sniper that you cant push against him, but now also if you lose a fight while having an advantage you lose the fucking game its insane.
i used to play es go 11 0 and win in 23 minutes, but now i go 11 0, we cant push, game goes to min 50 and i have 13 6 and we lose cuz they got dolla bills
Get good and don't die pushing base kappa. I lose over half my games the same way as you described. I always see my team just destroy early get sprees out the ass and we feed all of them on one push because pick offs/smoking is nonexistent. I've lurked these forums for a while and it's usually the same thing every time. No update is going to make everyone happy, dota is fun af that way. I really don't see myself ever hating the game unless it becomes something entirely different, sure we all love making flame threads like this to vent but we all know we are slaves to da coco.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Edit: Doto has 2 separate buttons Ranked and Unranked. Supposed to solve problems like this where people don't feel like trying but feel like playing. IMO I feel like some hero's should get nerfed a bit but hey I'm a slave to the rave yo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Not trying to argue just saying homie
if you watch closely a 6k game with sniper on one team, if you dont have like 3 very strong cores you just dont push against sniper, cuz you know YOU CANT or you DIE cuz they are smart and sit in base and you cant smoke on them etc etc.
and game turns into 60+ min of whoever has less patience and goes for a play.
this is not fun this it trash
ho ho ha ha
I'm not saying it's the best but c'mon techies started that shit don't blame poor little sniper. I guess this just emphasizes how important an early rax is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Can't win em all, that's why I don't have a 100% win rate.
Actually troll can wipe 5 alone if team goes like this for example two one one and one . I had a troll on my team clear all 5 heros by hisself once while all 4 of us were dead. Kill two towers and raxed enemy team. Keep in mind this Troll did this while we were losing.
I love this meta, You can win in the last f*ck$ng minute When everything seems lost... defend like there is no tomorrow, My team called gg since min 0, over 30k EXP diference but we won
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1401232841
That match ryo is a perfect example of garbage this meta is. I would rather watch a newbee t14 game.
^ exactly people say troll cant kill 5 , troll can kill 5 if u dont kite him , if he keeps rightclicking he have insane lifesteal cuz of dmg and speed and huge ehp and bkb , if u have enough lockdown and enough dmg he is going down , i found ww and lina r the best counters to him, sniper too
Sniper troll axe techies , lose early win late because of rubberband , classic
How will this patch be remembered? We have had patches were some heroes were string before but I cant think of one worse then this.
No more ranked till 6.84 I think
Meh I dunno if this meta was horrible but I know I am ready for it to end .