General Discussionshadowblade ta

personally i prefer sb to blink by far since it enables pickoffs much much better

against heroes with disables like rubick you can burst them down in 2 hits by abusing their turn rate/animations while blink is too fucking obvious

also traps lets you know where there are sentries

do you go deso first or sb?

also what do you mean by traps letting u see sents?

Are the additional tankyness, kiting mitigating effect of maim and the Break mechanic (this is awesome) reasons for the pick as well?

Wow, now that I think about it, Silver Edge is a pretty awesome item.

Easily countered and blink gives more mobility since the buff on refraction not canceling dagger
Edit: Oh we're discussing silver's edge, then I dunno :p both are cool

deso first ofc, 12 min if RoA else 9-10 min

if they have sentries they will kill your traps, so traps being up = no sentries (unless they are baiting)

i've raped countless 6k players with this build so if you think it's "easily countered" then that's your own business

e.g.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1457581551

ranked party against can't say wisp stack, half of them are 6.2k and above

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1353632310

another one

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1351152981

team malaysia members + randoms, their party mmr is 6k average solo mmr mid 6ks

alright, will try out in 2k and see well it goes

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I don't think Silver Edge is worth it unless you really need the break. Though SB is definitely viable but I don't think you need neither Blink nor SB.

how do you gank without blink or invis then, walking up with phase isn't exactly the best solution

A yasha/drums and a trap is more than enough to get close enough, and ofc you have your team to assist you

it's actually more than enough, i played without blink/sb for a year or two after initially playing mostly with blink, just phase/sny gives good mobility.

TA farms fast enough that you can split push/pressure and counterkill without mobility items simply by virtue of item advantage, and runes let you gank effectively while you farm/push between runes

sb is just better for shutting down certain cores, notably MoM jugg who activates it in jungle, Ember for two-shotting him before he can remnant out, prophet, etc

silver edge is even better for PA bristle DK etc, heroes who otherwise have defensive spells that compromise pickoffs

@Sam usually even if I dont need the break very much it addresses the hp issue at that particular timing in the game. most of the TA games i lose are those that go late where I run out of slots while sucking up too much farm anyway, so it doens't hurt to upgrade one of my slots abit earlier

i tried mom variants with sny eventually into skadi

i think desolator is just too good to skip personally, with ancient stacks the timing is pretty consistent even in a contested lane

Do you hit the enemy with the invi, then W to kill him, right?