General DiscussionIs Bogis no spiderling brood still valid?

Only her spiders got nerfed, so why not? Making orb of venom stack with her passive might make it even stronger.

what do you mean by 'valid', this build is and has always been worse than spiderling build in 99% of situations

was it ever 'valid' lol

i usd to play brood like that before they made her op. idk why i wouldnt still be valid, or valid at all anyway.

you can say bogi already proved its viable, just adapt his playstyle

yeah its viable but spiderlings is better lol

it's like saying sleight chains build on ember is viable, yeah it probably still is but we all agree it's not the best build

Brood in general is pretty much unstoppable in current pubs almost every broodplayer has like 75%+ WR. (I am 13-2 ATM)

Problem with that build is that you farm slower and if you cannot approach the lane you are basically screwed and cannot farm. enemy carry can just instant-tp out on sight.

Pro:
- workaround vs counters
- anticarry potential comes online earlier
- might have more killing potential
- might kill roshan earlier

Cons:
- farms slower
- if he cannot rightclick, falls of very quickly
- no comeback mechanism
- no additional units shenanigans
- cannot convert dominance into objectives as fast

Most important mentions is that brood in certain scenarios just shouldnt go a melee build and rather opt for utility and longrange support and use rightclicks mostly for finishing off, chasing, or apply misschance. Generally speaking its a hit or miss build and if it misses you rely on your team to make up for you.

EDIT: Bogi might be able to tell you more as he converted to both builds

I am not a brood player, and by no means do I know the hero that well. but it seems like It would be better to just take one early point in incapacitating bite and buy an OoV, then max spiders normally when you are up against an AoE heavy lane. Even if you cant do anything with the spiders in lane with out feeding them its still a 300 damge nuke, and you can still make use of the spiders to do things like farming the other teams jungle and scouting for ganks. also later on if you don't have spiders maxed you cant really push fast at all.

typical american wannabe that has no fucking idea

pudge without hook = bogi spider RIGHT YOU PIECE OF SHT

how bout just don't pick brood until last or second to last pick when axe is off the board?

the whole point is winning regardless of getting counterpicked!

i do that in almost every game :) ->more fun and shit

it's ingenaab's brood, thx to respect the property of mind :D

if u have axe on ur lane u just spam spider nuke on him with ur sr until he cant bring any more sustains, i dont see whats the problem

dude, the only way i use brood is without spiderling --> years ago so dont come here and tell me ingenaab discovered it!

its just that the hero was reworked and made noob friendly so its MUCH easier to play with spiders - curently

Well, you should only do it if they have insane amounts of AoE, even though the spammable nuke even without spiders is insane, Bogi does it every fucking game for some reason. Probably because he can't micro.

just go orb effect items + orchid and make enemy stop from slow

or go eblade dagon :D hyecoc

of course it still works. Bogi does it and has 60% wr. Why wouldnt it work? :) kappa

bogi is like 5.2-5.3 idk why you like moking him so much, he makes this build work

implying low 5k is anything to be proud of