I think the thing about Dota is it is flexible even if ppl try to impose a standard way to play. So the lanes/position also depends on the hero picks in the game. So if I choose offlAne but I pick a farming carry, choosing that particular role is meaningless.
But everyone will just choose core roles, thus extending matchmaking time and just like what Jacked say, some might just put any roles they like and pick other than what they chose.
"But everyone will just choose core roles, thus extending matchmaking time and just like what Jacked say, some might just put any roles they like and pick other than what they chose."
then dont fucking pick core roles
this is a great suggesiton and its quite sad that this hasnt been implemented already. ranked is 100% higher quality in league compared to this game because theres actually quality control in ranked in league and ur required to try and play like normal people
in dota theres 3 people marking mid and the 2 that dont get it just go jungle/some position 4 hero when u already have a position 4 and u end up with no lane supports and everyone loses their lanes and shit and generally speaking the games are terrible.
^ it's maybe a more fundamental issue of the game itself. There's so much focus on cores in Dota, everyone wants to play cores. Imo it's just not as fun to play support. Luckily the buff to the role has made it more playable but more needs to be done.
That's why if u implemented this in Dota, u might not get what u see in league anyway. it would in fact just extend matchmaking time since everyone wants to be a core. But I haven't played league so, I'm just guessing here
But one cant decide 100% what role he will play before the draft starts because of limited hero pool.
Like i prefer to play slark (which is core), if I can't then i'll play riki which is support. If i can't play that either i will adapt to my teams needs. So this aystem would still have its flaws.
yeah this system while great in theory just doesnt quite work out in practice because 80% of people will want to play core role and if you can still pick any hero people will just mark every position to get into a game faster and it will in the end just make the ranked system shittier. Yes something should probably be done to make it better but this will not help.
in what world is thsi a fucking static game suggestion. position 4 can be whatever you fucking want it to be but if you queue for position 5 u better fucking play a lane support instead of a 10th pick pudge after a first pick rikimarus already on ur team
moreover this is like the best case scenario in ranked games, 90% of the people in high mmr are carry/mid only players and its fucking annoying having 3+ of these players on your team cause whoevers not on the only role they paly is gonig to game ruin
all this does is force people to queue for the role they want to play so that you dont end up with the guy who decides hes going to midas veno jungle and be useless ebcause someone took his well earned safelane
This ruins the jebaited force someone to support trick where u mark jungle with a core to force someone to support, then pick support too instead. Jebaited.
Also veno jungle is legit. The thing with marking this shit is that dots is way to flexible in laning and everything. U can have 2-1-2, 3-1-1,1-1-3, 1-1-2 and 1 jungle, 1-1-2 and someone roam, the previous 2 but with 2-1-1 instead, even 1-2-2 with dual mid with tony. U can be greedy and play a 4th core or scaling support, or aggressive and go for more flexible heroes who all fit the pos 3-4 role like kunkka jakiro Mirana all who can support or carry. Way way too flexible game to be put in a mold for matchmaking. What I hear is the only viable league setup is 2-1-1 with 1 jungle.
in wow, you got pre-defined stats of the hero that pnly make him viable at certain role. in dota, ever game starts from the very beginning. thats not a good parallel.
dota measures your skill as a player generally, which involves your flexibility and your communication skills as well.
Why the fuck theres a New morron every Day who want to jerk of on lol! Just go and play lol noone cares. But dont destroy dota.
This goes against the game in my opinion as its a very flexible game and lane rotations won't happen if people think they are locked into their lane
If what you say would become true in dota, all the strategies will go to waste and it would be a game like LoL and honestly fuk lol
Tru ppl pick 5 carries but shit happens u gotta win bc of ur skill not complain for every game
I don't know if selecting specific roles before the game start would be possible, there is too much variation and flexibility in Dota for this to work. That being said something like queueing to play core/support/offlane would be interesting and probably workable, my main problem would be greatly increased queue times as someone who basically only plays safelane in ranked which I'd imagine would be a role many players would queue for. Right now I get it pretty much every game due to having highest mmr and I wouldn't enjoy a system where even in 1/10 of my games I was forced to play support.
why not just make it like a preference and not a requirement
so the system tries to pair u with players who picked other roles but if it doesn't find a match after some time it just queues u into whoever it can find thus not stretching the queue time too much
Per favore Accedi per inviare commenti.
If any of you played WoW you can remember when they introduced automated party search in WOTLK. There was 3 options you could sign in as: DPS, Healer or Tank.
I would really like to see that in Dota only it would be position wise. It would lead to lees deliberate match ruining when people don't get lane they want, or they do, but there are other teammates already there, like mid or safelane farmer.
It would lead to higher match finding time for players that lets say play only offlane, compared to players that can play anything, but it would leave you an option to play what you like with longer waiting time or to play whats given to you and have much shorter waiting time.
Of course something like automatic LPQ for players that dont respect position given to them by the game (like applying for all positions, getting offlane and going safelane instead).
Also good option would be to enable in game swapping of positions, if both players agree ofc.