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General DiscussionAlchemist: How to midlane vs Huskar

Alchemist: How to midlane vs Huskar in General Discussion
Geckolimus

    Hi guys! Got owned hard by a mid huskar recently in mid lane. How do you versus him as Alchemist? He can so zone you out and his ultimate kills you. What do you do? Suggestions please and please no advice to ask teammate to gank him as you are better off treating your teammates as idiots at my skill level. Thanks!

    Regards
    Gecko

    doc joferlyn simp

      i guess buy tons of regen + get that bottle asap. spam acid hope for lucky dmg instances wherein you can last hit with just acid. if huskar is overconfident you may even get a kill when you get level 6, he has a pretty short range which means if you placed the acid well he will need to stand on it for a long time

      just play really defensively pre level 6 if you cant have a teammate help you in the lane

      casual gamer

        supports gank him when ur lvl 2-3 and he dies to acid spray + shackle or some similar combo

        lion in particular can get fast lvl 2 and annihilate a lvl 2/3 huskar with double disable in acid spray, especially since huskar isnt full hp when you gank him

        Super Speed Snail

          2k mmr answer here, ready?

          Its bad lane match up. The best thing I would do is swap lane with other. Or if that not possible, trying to survive at lane until lv6 then jungle.

          That huskar might roam soon and leave your lane or something. Though alche builds BKB anyway, so huskar wont be a problem for long.

          Geckolimus

            Thanks for input. I hate to see huskar free farm and it really impede on alchemist farming. Wondering if there is another way. The ultimate is really a killer. Can it be disjointed by a glimmer cape?

            dead

              huskar just shits on alche, just ask for supports to rotate, if they dont rotate and you cant swap lanes with anybody,
              buy a cloak to reduce burning spear dmg, and just play defensively

              casual gamer

                the way to deal with the lane solo is abuse creep aggro as best u can in lane and spam stack camps, spray for recovery farm with talon

                Sia

                  Dont die stay back block ur incoming wave when the waves reach each other on ur high ground aggro creeps to ur tower lh under tower if creeps are far from tower leave them be, just dont die if u think u can get the lh only getting one or two attacks from huskar aggro that creep and get its lh and get back, stack for yourself and go for runes since u wont miss more lh than u already will if huskar goes for rune first tho stay in lane and get the lh and when he comes back go for the other rune go for ur stacks lvl6+
                  If u manage to stack the medium and large camp each 3 times by using q on one while dragging the other one ur farm will go back to its normal speed

                  Just dont take 6 stacks of huskar w for one lh and if he stands between u and creeps just try to get close to xp range when hid creeps are dying otherwise hug tower using a salve for one regen and running out of regen min 1 isnt efficient at all

                  Geckolimus

                    So, spray around own tower? Do you venture beyond the river?

                    4pos pudge/grim only

                      huskar is so annoying to lane against. he threw like 3 or 4 burning spear whenever u come close to last hitting and u already dropped to half hp. i would bail the lane immediately because alchemist without last hits just a deadweight for the team. go jungle or swap lane.

                      Sia

                        "I hate to see huskar free farm"

                        Well hate all you want if your bracket isnt high enough to have rotating supports, you will have to let him farm it's not like you can do anything to him besides taking a lot of damage to get a deny so he wont farm

                        Geckolimus

                          Will a free farm huskar be a problem later if I play passive? Looks going he is having a field day vs alchemist then.

                          Sia

                            Acid spray for jungle creeps
                            It is a very good spell but a hero like huskar against alch can go to the other side of the range of it near your side of the map then u havent done anything but pushing their wave in general, im not sayong dont use it im sayin u can get lh with it and maybe make it a bit hard for him to come at you or stand there but keep in mind how much you're getting yourself into when you go for the lh sometimes it's simply not wirth it

                            Sia

                              Honestly huskar will get his armlet + treads out of the free farm but an alch who's farmed $hits on huskar

                              Geckolimus

                                Ok. Let's pray I don't meet another huskar again... getting nightmares!!

                                Regards
                                Gecko

                                doc joferlyn simp

                                  hope and pray for leniency

                                  srsly though acid dmg is huge early and i think its dmg is physical, so husk's blood thing wont have an give him more survivability. later on though your spells will at least stay potent against him because they are all phys dmg and acid melts armor, plus your bat will be insane so with a few items you can shit in him

                                  only problem now is how you place the acid effectively if he is blocking you, gl with that

                                  Sia

                                    Some matchups arent meant to be, you shouldn't expect to do anything that slows down huskar's farm that's just how it is go with it understand the hero limits at each level.
                                    Also have a tp always so if u in risk of dying u can get out

                                    I am 322 ! I am NOT DDZ !

                                      http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2762787678
                                      drop a spray between the creeps and you, then draw aggro to last hit
                                      he will try to run to your cliff to zone you, then you run down so he has to keep walking around your spray to harass you

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                                      Sia

                                        Acid is a very good spell yes and with talon u often can get some lh withiut attackin creeps

                                        doc joferlyn simp

                                          well that huskar was too dogshit to be relevant anyways

                                          I am 322 ! I am NOT DDZ !

                                            he was but the concept is still the same i believe

                                            raptured

                                              I like how this ns scrub don't feed :( became the main voice of knowledge on this forum. Someone give this man a smurf and let him get reckt by 3ks so he knows where his opinions belong. NoKappa

                                              Bow to your daddy

                                                haha , u never met viper laning againts u at mid lane :v ,it will be more struggle than huskar

                                                Super Speed Snail

                                                  I dont know, dude. if you could survive early, you will mop the floor using him at late game.

                                                  He dont have nasty farming ability, your gpm will be the main factor in the end.

                                                  At the time he got any one big item, you already have two.

                                                  His spear are getting irrelevant quite quickly if you can farm nicely. BKB will make you laugh, radiance will make armlet toggling a nightmare, he dont have aoe to handle your manta.

                                                  At worst, even if he is a skilled huskar, he cant do anything when you start splitpush.

                                                  doc joferlyn simp

                                                    not true, diox is the main voice of knowledge in this forum

                                                    get on his level scrub

                                                    Sia

                                                      @stay calm and xD

                                                      lul did i offend u or was any of the above "garbage"?
                                                      If u dont like me for any reason i want u to know i give 0 $hits so yea flame more

                                                      casual gamer

                                                        i mean most players are honestly awful if you restricted this forum to people who were remotely good it would be the ywn and ctnpaste chat box

                                                        raptured

                                                          I'm just dissatified with life. Whatever. Keep spreading your misleading opinions.

                                                          dead

                                                            ^^basically anybody above 6k

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                                                            Sia

                                                              Honestly i agree ywn is the one who could actually say something and u could trust it is true but it's not ywn's youtube channel here it's a forum ppl say stuff and others say other stuff and everyone could add up to others' knowledge 5k doesnt mean ur top tear it means u can actually call yourself good so instead of flaming and talkin sht try to be part of community

                                                              Even 1k players who say shit will eventually understand their opinion is wrong and try to learn the right one so @stay calm idk whatever

                                                              Sia

                                                                diox tho...

                                                                lul the guy keeps doing his thing
                                                                #never give up

                                                                Na`Vi.Miracle-

                                                                  In that game huskar barely denied you so just farm and don't die.
                                                                  Looks like you fed pretty hard

                                                                  Jacked

                                                                    man bro. i dno, sounds fucked up what u describing. good luck

                                                                    Dire Wolf

                                                                      Don't feed huskar, he sucks if he doesn't snowball, he is a shit farmer, he falls off hard late. Alch can catch up so easily in farm.

                                                                      Geckolimus

                                                                        Yes, haven't fed so hard in a while.
                                                                        Feeding is like Pringles: once you pop you just can't stop! 😣

                                                                        Sia

                                                                          Sounds like meth

                                                                          🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                            Bring his hp to 0

                                                                            LISAN AL GAIB

                                                                              Cookie sama always with the best tips

                                                                              Sia

                                                                                Da mvp

                                                                                very good csgo player

                                                                                  Git gud max concoction and acid buy blight stone, he comes to hit you put acid down and fuck him up ezmid2kstrat16

                                                                                  casual gamer

                                                                                    2k strat indeed

                                                                                    >tfw no gamer girl peeing gf

                                                                                      Get a Ring of Health

                                                                                      casual gamer

                                                                                        u have plenty of regen when u hit 6 the issue is being worn down to 30% hp if you commit to punching creeps and dying, ur going bottle first and then ull have 6 before u can rice a roh probably

                                                                                        diox

                                                                                          buy radience so he miss.

                                                                                          Jacked

                                                                                            ^lmao hahahaha best advice

                                                                                            Lokieleven

                                                                                              You don't. If it is a mid huskar you don't pick alch. Invo shits on husk

                                                                                              I am 322 ! I am NOT DDZ !

                                                                                                Honestly just watch the replay I posted even tho huskar was brain damaged the concept is still the same

                                                                                                I am 322 ! I am NOT DDZ !

                                                                                                  It's not a heavy huskar favored Mu anw

                                                                                                  Seven-

                                                                                                    @diox

                                                                                                    i play alchemixer on me smurf

                                                                                                    i play against huskar middol

                                                                                                    i follow ur advice; i typing "radience" in shop

                                                                                                    no item appeared.

                                                                                                    what i did wrong? any tips? need play ranked so "radience" for appear? need i buy battle pass? pls help ... cant fite huskar because this bug keep on happen ...

                                                                                                    doc joferlyn simp

                                                                                                      ^HAHAHA

                                                                                                      BossTrell

                                                                                                        on mid alch>huskar