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The Quiet Observant Teammate

    Yesterday I posted a topic regarding the VHS bracket. Some of you might remember replying to me with some answers, and I am here to counteract all of them.
    Basically, a guy plays his FIRST game on a fresh account with me, picks anti-mage, feeds, and leaves.
    So, you might say who gives a shit not a big deal that shit happens all the time.
    He was placed in the VHS bracket as his first game, ended up abandoning, while I had to carry a 3v5;he recieves a win

    http://tinypic.com/r/abpmbb/9 - Screenshot of the post-game
    http://tinypic.com/r/3444ghs/9 - The leaver's profile, confirming he got a win for that game.

    This system is an absolute piece of shit, it all comes down to the luck you're getting with teammates. I doubt it's any different in ranked. This anti-mage will go on queueing in VHS skill, eventually calibrating at 4kish and ruining a bunch of games because HE DOESN'T BELONG THERE.

    P.S. The enemies left in the end
    Edit: I failed the first screenshot

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    ywn

      OH I WAS SEXUALLY HARASSED IN VHS BRACKET GUYS tHIS MAN JUST SEXUALLY HARASSED ME

      🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

        waah im a baby, i got a bad game

        mommy where's my milkkkkkkkkk waah

        The Quiet Observant Teammate

          You're obviously the type of a player like this antimage, you don't see this as being as a serious problem. If I could get a serious answer to as why are people getting placed in the VHS bracket as their first game, and why did he recieve a win for that game I could go on with my life.
          But these are some serious problems with the game, which makes it unenjoyable in the slightest.

          ywn

            youre obviuosly the type of human who is a retard

            The Quiet Observant Teammate

              And I didn't have a bad game, as it should be obvious from the screenshots. Anyway it's not about me having a bad game or not , jesus

              The Quiet Observant Teammate

                Well a 7k player behaving like an animal here at the forum really tells me a lot of dota community. Maybe there are retards everywhere and it's just not worth trying to play this game

                casual gamer

                  it takes 5 games of feeding in a row for the game to put me out of vhs

                  pepsi

                    1-If the game is unenjoyable to you, don't play it.
                    2-He got placed in VHS bracket first match probably because he already has an account in VHS bracket.
                    3-It is shown as win as a general outcome of match, he has abandon in his match history and recent game stats at home page.
                    4-Please stop whining about stuff on forums, I have been on DB for like a year now reading topics regularly, this kind of stuff(System is rigged,bad etc) gets posted like every single day with a constant trend of OP being all butthurt and commenters trolling him.

                    The Quiet Observant Teammate

                      I don't know if you're all 12 or what, but I'm not butthurt or do I care about getting trolled. I just want some real answers and I'm thankful for an attempt, Triosus.
                      Holy shit this world in general is going full apeshit, can't ask a normal logical question without getting cyberbullied or whatever.

                      ywn

                        Answers to what? you posted your retarded MATCHMAKING IS BULLSHIT conspiracy theory and cried about a leaver in an unranked game. U sure youre not the 12 yr old?

                        I am 322 ! I am NOT DDZ !

                          you have my support fellow chi long quan

                          The Quiet Observant Teammate

                            Well the ywn- kid is just not getting it. Guess you need to go watch some anime and get the fuck out of my sight, cuz you're not only 12 in the head but also physically as it seems. Just don't even bother commenting on my post, alright kiddo?

                            MARLAN

                              Firstly - MMR works perfectly fine. Given enough matches everyone will be calibrated properly.

                              Secondly - You are the ONLY persistent factor in your games. If your MMR goes up or down, it is because of you.

                              Thirdly - Luck does effect MMR, but given enough matches, the effect of luck approaches 0. If you play 100 matches and you say you're doing poorly because of bad luck, maybe you should quit Dota and go play the casino instead. (Just bet that you lose I guess LUL)

                              Lastly - The main and largest problem with the MMR System however, is that it does take a *large quantity* of games to calibrate players properly. Using myself as an example, my current solo mmr is low 5k, but I believe I don't belong there, I've been told about 7 times now by people who don't know my MMR and who I didn't ask for a rating that I play at a 6k level. I hate playing solo queue that's why I don't play it, but just for experiments sake I played and endured 40 games of cancer. I had a about a 75% winrate over those matches. But if you play say 40 games and your winrate is 50% give or take, that means you belong there, sorry, the system does work.

                              Ludd

                                Quite observant, you have to realize that is not how much MMR you got, it is about how miserable the player life is. You see, those salty trolls hitting at you, have issues, big ones, and they didn't realize they are just dikcheads. Like all unhappy koonts, they justify their self-emptiness fkuking around people to get the satisfaction they lack in their sad lives.

                                The Quiet Observant Teammate

                                  I am 322, nice winrate on the KOTL. I'm pretty sure I know what you did :P

                                  ywn

                                    man it must suck being both unintelligent and naive, though i guess that often goes hand in hand.

                                    The Quiet Observant Teammate

                                      MARLAN + Rick Sanchez as far as it goes for the MMR system I would kind of agree, I probably made the wrong impression with the topic name. What I really don't understand is NS-HS-VHS brackets and how do they work, it just doesn't make any sense.

                                      The Quiet Observant Teammate

                                        ywn- brah, I kindly told you to step back and forget you ever commented on this post and live your nice life. I will do so once again.

                                        mom said it's my turn to ...

                                          but I'm not butthurt

                                          He isn't butthurt guys, pls

                                          ywn

                                            is that some kinda threat? rofl

                                            The Quiet Observant Teammate

                                              Is there an option to /ignore all the posts of the people that are under 18? That would be really helpful

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                                              ywn

                                                brain users baffled by mans incredible ability to make stupid threads

                                                casual gamer

                                                  then you wouldnt see diox threads so why would you even be here

                                                  MARLAN

                                                    if u could ignore posts from people under 18 then dotabuff threads would be empty, everyone here is 12

                                                    Long hard road out of 2k

                                                      make smurf and complain 4head

                                                      🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                        you're trying too hard, not nearly as good as the anime troll thread

                                                        D
                                                        D

                                                          just a bunch of dogshit players

                                                          casual gamer

                                                            the anime troll got disturbing really quick tbh

                                                            ywn

                                                              typical team rem tards

                                                              MARLAN

                                                                fuck u rem is the best

                                                                emilia is garbage

                                                                ywn

                                                                  Rem = Dunning Kruger

                                                                  Emilia = 9k mmr

                                                                  MARLAN

                                                                    man Rem died so many times she is true love waifu

                                                                    emilia is some friendzoning useless girl

                                                                    D
                                                                    D

                                                                      fucking dogshit

                                                                      HartzFear

                                                                        Actually why would someone care about beeing NS HS or VHS?
                                                                        There is absolute zero skill need to be 3,8k. So its all the Same trash. Cheers.

                                                                        MARLAN

                                                                          ^ yea this triggers me a bit. like valve i guess just babies everyone to think they are good.

                                                                          i mean i guess technically 4.3k (i think?) is top 1% but that sounds so much better than it actually is, because there are SO many casual garbage literally braindeads who play dota. if you were to take a percentile of players who are actually tryharding and aren't casual then 4.3k would be like a 40% percentile. 5k would be like 10% percentile and 6k would be 1%

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                                                                            K

                                                                            Jacked

                                                                              Let me tell you exactly why u are an absolute retard. U deserve a legit answer I know. But first let me tell u why u r retarded. 1. It's unranked game full of
                                                                              Smurfs. U have no right to complain about game quality. That's just how it is. What r u stupid or what?
                                                                              2. It's just one fokkin game m8 and ur whining about the entire mmr system.
                                                                              3. Him abandoning the game had nothing to do with what u are whining about.

                                                                              I kinda wanna strangle u so hard

                                                                              Trash

                                                                                Because OP is trash

                                                                                dead

                                                                                  like you

                                                                                  robert

                                                                                    Team Rem and Team Emilia LMAO. Best girl competition still on.

                                                                                    Edit: i cant believe marlan is weeb VoHiYo

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                                                                                    Shou

                                                                                      Ywn triggers me too, mostly cuz he is a wilthy weeb piece of shit who spends all day jerking to hentai and hoping that his favorite naruto ship happens. Fuck u ywn all weebs need to be immediately exterminated.

                                                                                      Shou

                                                                                        Marlan is nae never call him a weeb again.

                                                                                        Shou

                                                                                          I meant bae

                                                                                          robert

                                                                                            Nae nae

                                                                                            Mushi

                                                                                              GUYS I BOUGHT A LOTTERY TICKET WHICH HAS 0.01% CHANCE OF WINNING

                                                                                              AND I WON THE LOTTERY SO THIS IS A SOLID PROOF THAT LOTTERY TICKETS ARE THE WAY TO INFINITE WEALTH

                                                                                              DAMN I'M SO CLEVER FOR SHARING THIS TO EVERYONE SO THE OTHER 99.99% OF PEOPLE LOSING THE LOTTERY IS DUE TO WHATEVER REASON THAT I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE WITH BECAUSE I HAVE A SOLID PROOF THAT LOTTERY = WIN

                                                                                              Shou

                                                                                                Shut the fuck up mushit

                                                                                                ywn

                                                                                                  fuck you man

                                                                                                  1-IceTea 🌟

                                                                                                    @MARLAN
                                                                                                    b-but if 50%give or take mean u belong here, dota mmr will never rises.
                                                                                                    I see all world top player is 50+ - win rate

                                                                                                    Jacked

                                                                                                      chillout raj why u so angsst

                                                                                                      robert

                                                                                                        raj XD