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Kosai

    What are some heroes that can 1v5 successfully? Playing with some friends who are new or significantly less skilled and I'm teaching them to play position 4-5 supports, but that usually means having to carry whole team by myself, while the average skill level of opponents are significantly higher than them, as well as other randoms on my team. Safe lane hard carries usually fail since it's basically trying to hold high ground from minute 20 onwards, even strong early-game carries like Slark and Sniper. Mid heroes like invoker, OD, etc often fail unless since they have hardly any understanding of counter-initiating and positioning in teamfights.

    Having some success with alchemist and legion commander, but very low win rate with other heroes, any other suggestions?

    dead

      Sven

      Jacked

        Luna Sven morphing

        Illyasviel

          sniper

          ywn

            Meepo Naga Alch Tinker

            Kosai

              Tried sniper and sven, both <25% win rate, even though I'm doing 50-60% of damage: https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2782504159

              Real hard when you are the primary target for the opposing team while still having to output the most damage...

              Morph/Luna is viable, but usually don't get the chance to farm and get sieged high ground from 20 minutes due to superior team fighting ability of enemy team.

              Jacked

                7k god. how is tinker 1 v 5 if he cant push by himself

                Kosai

                  Hmm meepo and tinker seem good, have to practice them soon.

                  neveragain

                    pa tiny

                    ywn

                      Ember

                      ywn

                        well tinker can defend push and kill people so many times even tards will get farmed

                        Chadzpyre

                          no mention for dank warden?

                          Super Speed Snail

                            Luna or drow.

                            You wont be able win clashing 1v5, but they has good set of skill to clashing. The thing is, you can split push, ratting to push tower and win by that alone with those hero.

                            As long as your enemy cant handle this tactic.

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                            Wrath

                              Arc warden excels in both split pushing, base defending, and team fighting. What else do you want for 1v5?

                              Kosai

                                Yup, split pushing with AM/ember worked somewhat ok provided the enemy has no hard counter, but usually whenever I have to return to base to defend rax we still get wiped, eg: https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2657569885.
                                Arc warden is a good suggestion, will watch some reps later.

                                pls be patient, receiving BJ

                                  Tonker + aghs = 1v5

                                  CombatPanCakes

                                    I would say Luna or Morph would be good
                                    Luna:
                                    Has decent lane phase, and her aura will help your noob teammates
                                    Decent crowd control and damage with glaives
                                    Good at defending highground, which should helpyou go lategame
                                    As the game goes later, you become very good at pushing as well, and the standard build includes items that are good for pushing

                                    Morph:
                                    If you can get the farm, absolutly dominates lategame
                                    with morph strength can continualy deal massive damage while staying alive
                                    flexible builds, depending on how the game is going
                                    lots of escapes if your teammates are just getting slaughtered around you and you need to get out
                                    can safely have pretty much every lane pushed in by using your ult
                                    can straight up base race/rat and still get out without dying

                                    casual gamer

                                      morph sven slark AM

                                      Rocket

                                        Name's Meepo. Geomancer. Pleased to meet ya.

                                        (Although technically it is still 5v5)

                                        Shikanoko Noko

                                          storm spirit. But dont go in 1 vs 5. just go for solo kill

                                          Shou

                                            A good timber pick. This is one of my most FeelsBadMan games ever out of my 800 or so where i was 1v5ing but storm went afk and i listened to the retard sniper who told me to buy hex and sell euls. I shudda sold for lotus orb i was kicking myself so hard.
                                            https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2581056210

                                            Shou

                                              Most bloodstone heroes are very snowbally, and any hard carry who dominates in farm, sven, luna, or ganking, slark, spectre (tho she is in a bad place rn)

                                              Na'Vi.cyka

                                                When you say 1v5 that means 1v5 from the beginning of the game (assuming you expect no help from your team whatsoever), so you have to pick heroes that have escape mechanisms and can survive early game/get enough farm to have a lot of impact in mid / late game, so I wouldnt say Sven and Luna fit this description, as they need a safe lane and a lot of support.. I would say pick mid heroes or carries with escape mechanisms suck as: Tinker, Arc Warden, Alchemist, Weaver, Morphling, Storm, Jugg.

                                                Music

                                                  Slark!

                                                  Music

                                                    Slark!

                                                    Sarllo

                                                      mid: tinker, alchemist
                                                      safe lane carry: sven, spectre

                                                      Forget me not

                                                        Why is no one mentioning Ursa here.

                                                        Jack__Attack

                                                          Luna, Sven, meepo, Templar, tinker

                                                          🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                            every hero can 1v5

                                                            it's not the hero who 1v5's, it's the player behind that hero

                                                            JOVISIA

                                                              Would totally love to see you 1v5 with IO

                                                              4pos pudge/grim only

                                                                ^IO armlet deadulus triple mjolnirs and satanic. dota wtf approved

                                                                Shou

                                                                  I guess if u got a theoretical amount of farm or a significant skill gap. But usually if ur opponents are of similar skill u cant just walk around 1v5ing with roaming clinx

                                                                  Jacked

                                                                    Yea. Of course u can 1 v5 w anything given enough farm gap and skill gap like daddy said. But if everyone is on equal footing. some heroes are better than others, obviously. Think storm is a good 1v5 hero. But he isn't easy like Sven.

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                                                                    ywn

                                                                      "it's not the hero who 1v5's, it's the player behind that hero"

                                                                      tell that to fucing crystal 30 base damage maiden

                                                                      Jacked

                                                                        ^ can u carry 5ks with mid carry crystal maiden? That is the questions.

                                                                        Miwiwww! :)

                                                                          Ck is good but the only problem for this hero is mana . but when you have a cm in your team you can use your skills without much worrying about your mana .. you need to kill the squishy supports 1st or you go for the damage dealer 1st .. or the crowd control heroes like magnus enigma and void .. https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2780533219

                                                                          Shou

                                                                            I carried as cm. Got my second rampage ever. Pretty lit.
                                                                            https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2491710922

                                                                            Shou

                                                                              Ck destroys most pubs. I played with a kotl before and it felt really good cuz i didnt have any mana problems with chakra.
                                                                              https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2537232184

                                                                              Jacked

                                                                                That's not true carry cm. u gotta go right clicker style xD

                                                                                Potato Marshal

                                                                                  CK is definitely one of the harder carries and better 1v5 heroes

                                                                                  https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/618811395

                                                                                  He's fast, high damage, high survivability, good early game kill potential, excellent chase and push.

                                                                                  Jacked

                                                                                    But ck can't really farm fast right. So u need ur team to make space

                                                                                    Potato Marshal

                                                                                      It's incredibly easy to get kills as CK at sub-5k once you hit level 7, as long as you have one other hero with a nuke or disable with you.

                                                                                      Shou

                                                                                        Tbh ck is a perfect carry for aggro tri, cant farm fast but excels at fighting early for a carry, and has a stun and a way to get people out of position and move them.

                                                                                        SaiSaii

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                                                                                          ywn

                                                                                            no

                                                                                            SaiSaii

                                                                                              I have something to tell you

                                                                                              ywn

                                                                                                go ahead

                                                                                                Luxon

                                                                                                  TB is pretty obvious choice.
                                                                                                  1v5(literally) in a low prio game: https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2674707478
                                                                                                  1v5 with a useless team: https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2442689151

                                                                                                  SaiSaii

                                                                                                    Just add me sir :)

                                                                                                    SaiSaii

                                                                                                      Luxon- add me sir :)

                                                                                                      ywn

                                                                                                        send me the new sf set and we can talk