Neither
Just think about the game critically, analyze some replays, and watch YouTube guides
Tsunami, professorfierce, and d2bowie comes into mind
In a world where replays from 8k+ players are free to download people pay money for guides?
@cut. I could watch 1000 replays of 8k players and learn nothing because I dono why something is done.
only guides you ever need to watch are the free ones from Professor Fierce
but definitely the best way to ACTUALLY improve is to analyse 8k replays, i did that, cutnpaste did that, kr did that
everyone who got to high mmr in a reasonable time took their sweet time on analyzing replays
@Jacked the point of analyzing them is to figure out WHY they're doing something, not understanding why is just watching the game passively
Definitely not, he may have some talent but he's an unmovable rock which will never try new things
Whatever works for you bro because IMO both teaches you in a (spoon fed way) which is good if your dota knowledge/ game sense isn't fully developed.
Pvgna & Gameleap will help you have that primary knowledege that would hopefully develop you to a person who would be able to chew out the raw knowledge an 8k/9k replay would give you.
TLDR; Pvgna and Gameleap -> Knowledge that is spoonfed for you to understand (like a TEXT BOOK)
8k/9k replays -> W/o prior knowledge you are on your own it is up to you how much u can absorb from the replay
@op i'd suggest u just to choose one randomly (i would get gameleap but i dont need really) and just see their main knowledge vids also watch some purge vids u could find the patterns of analysing games then analyse your own games and pro games like cookies said. Also u could learn how to analyse by urself like cookie
Back when riki was triggering me and i was a tryhard i got 500+ mmr in a month during the moths i bothered doing analysis.
What i never ever got is how this forum is filled with little kiddies making 50 page arguments on how its impossible to reach VHS without even once picking up a replay.
3.7k mmr players are straight out bad, you wont have a single proper match of dota 2 under 6k avg.
2% of the games are actually unwinnable, every other match is winnable given a perfect player
A realistic non-perfect 7k booster will still win 95%+ matches in 1-4k without even trying.
There are even Some are even good enough to never lose in those games even if their whole team is intentionally feeding
Cookie u r good but u see stuff from ur own prespective ppl r different for example u insist on not watching any guide and start analysing with your own knowledge to find out new stuff. Altho it's A strategy it's not THE strat. There are ways ad u chose one. Just give em a hint like u do and let em decide dont wonder why they're not doing a thing they dunno they could do
@Sia
But I don't want to get higher mmr.
My goal is just to meme and trolling with only jungle.
After hit 5K I will cut down my dota play time by at least 50%
haha k it's actually legit that u got a plan
IF YOU DONT WANT TO GO PRO DONT TRYHARD RANK PEOPLE you gonna ruin your life waste you time. if only u learned another skill that could've made u money ...
Yes, only guides id ever recommend would be from professor fieece, because those are the basicis.
You can watch some gameleap guide on pulling at 54 but youll never understand what effect that has without analysing it yourself.
Im not giving this from my own experiance only.
Almost every 6k+ player i know does some type of game analysis
Some do it on spot, some watch 8k pub games, some watch pro games etc.
I only know a couple who're straight out geniuses and got to 6k+ with only experience within 2k games of starting to play
^Good point
@Sia
I know if I able to rotate jungle lane my efficiency will increase alot but I just want to be full time jungler from meme.
give me the title of : MEME JUNGLER FORM DOTABUFF
after I get 5K by only jungle dammit
@cookie how bout dota2bowies channel? have you seen that? do you think that's good material for him?
I actually think he's retarded.
He knows how to analyse but he makes videos that suit the largest audience and their mental issues.
Aka he doesnt make actual informational guides, he makes entertainment.
I've tested this method, and it's the gayest thing ever.
I wont explain his method, but all he does is appeal to the gulible and dumb.
His tone, wording, video pacing, content is just honey to attract viewers, not to educate them
I also got to 5k by jungle, but not that type of jungle
Your type will neverre break the 5k barrier.
If it does, its gonna take you a year or so.
I dod the same thing, if i hadnt adapted my new playstyle id never get out of 4k
I knew I take too much space early
but it feel so good if I manage to farm and almost solo everything after that xD
he said he just wanna meme dude :D
also i agree on bowie i felt he's good at start but as i became a better player i never watched his vids again i can do analysis for myself better than another guy who's probably same skill level as me or idk lower even
I am 4829 now 5K is close!
Who care about solo memer when it can be sandboxes
We fokin tryna do an inhouse but no luck
maybe if @skim or some mod makes a dotabuff tournament and we sign up and make balanced teams we could do so depends if ppl here are willing to put a small time to cooperate or not
So game Leap or fucking pvgna
I dont have the answer Jeremy
Also try making channels More popular than dota d Bowie if u think he ia retarded
Thats why he's famous, because kiddies like you get attracted to him like flies to shit.
Its not hard to do that, you just need to know some basic psychology
"[blank] gets attracted to [blank] like flies to shit" xD best cookies quote ever will use it in future
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which one i should chose 2.5k mostly carry player