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General DiscussionImproving of DOTABUFF (for admins mb)

Improving of DOTABUFF (for admins mb) in General Discussion
ANIME BOY но не твой(

    Many players note that the players' skills are significantly different on one particular skill bracket. This is most noticeable on Very High Skill bracket. I think that no one will argue with the fact that 4k and 7k players have completely different level of their skills :)

    My suggestion to change skill brackets (the numerical values are average MMR in the game, the barriers between NS / HS / VHS are the same):

    Low skill: 0-2499
    Normal Skill: 2500-3199
    High Skill: 3200-3699
    Very High Skill: 3700-6199
    Professional Skill: 6200+

    Giff me Wingman

      The idea itself is good but there is a problem with it. In order for the system to work, dotabuff would have had to be able to get mmr from every player in order to display a proper bracket, which the API cannot provide unless a user has shared it.

      ANIME BOY но не твой(

        But dotabuff can determine the difference between HS/VHS. VHS is 3700+ avg mmr.

        BoJack

          Dotabuff doesnt determine that, the api does. Dotabuff just gathers the info. Dotabuff cant know avg mmr of any match

          (?)

            God skill : 9000-infinity

            Lokieleven

              Pretty sure it would be 7k+ for pro skill.

              Psydūck

                Idk how dotabuff earns money ! Because there are only few players who upgradeto plus !

                matrice

                  @Danishblunt, with less than 1% of the player sharing mmr, you can already find the bracket for every game which has at least one player that isn't hiding his information (but can hide his mmr).

                  Ofc, for some value, or by unluck of game, you can have some long series of games that screw everything, but then you just roll an algorithm on end data (like gpm/xpm) to re-adjust. (can also check history of game, since it's there even if the player don't share mmr)

                  Tedious to do, but not hard

                  Jacked

                    Knowing one guy sharing mmr doesn't let u know the average and is why Dota mmr estimation sites are usually way off.

                    Also why is Norma skill to VHS such a small range from 0 to 3700 but on the extreme right tail u have 3700-10000

                    Jacked

                      It's known that the bracket comes from valve. I'm surprised it hasn't moved. Doesn't the skill bracket supposedly reflect mmr distribution more than anything?

                      TripleSteal-

                        ^it didnt move cz mmr distribution didnt change except for constant minor fluctuations

                        new brackets cant be added by dotabuff cz its a set of data extracted from steam api, and not so ething that dotabuff defines by itself

                        despair

                          What if they readjust the brackets?
                          Normal skill: 0-3999
                          High skill: 4000-4999
                          Very high skill: 5000+

                          1-IceTea 🌟

                            ^It seem more legit them the one we have

                            faw

                              faw

                                5% 1100
                                10% 1500
                                25% 2000
                                50% 2250
                                75% 2731
                                90% 3200
                                95% 3900
                                99% 4100

                                = didnt change

                                one syllable anglo-saxon

                                  how is 4100 1% lmao u can see from the graph its way more

                                  arin

                                    why not just show percentile for each avg mmr of the game instead of ns/hs/vhs

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                                    MonkaS

                                      how about adding item filters when searching for matches/guides ?

                                      faw

                                        XD whoops

                                        faw

                                          i mean median is still right though and i guess data is skewed towards higher mmr ppl

                                          arin

                                            how about not refreshing the page each time i change a filter in "matches" tab

                                            Story Time

                                              how about having fun playing and not masturbating on your MMR-epenis numbers?