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General DiscussionA Good Carry to Break Through 4k MMR

A Good Carry to Break Through 4k MMR in General Discussion
MeePwn

    Hi, I've been stuck between 3.7k-3.9k mmr for a month. I boosted from 1.8k to 3k by spamming meepo and from 3k to 3.8k spamming anti mage. But every time I play these heroes now, I always get countered hard. I didn't bother counters before 3.6k but now, I'm loosing games everytime someone picks sven against my meepo or BS against my anti mage. Also, my laning stage is getting weaker and weaker every time my MMR increases. I encounter harder lanes e.g a weaver off-lane against me solo safe-lane AM. Free farm lanes are really hard to get.

    In short, I need to learn a new carry who will be tanky enough to survive a hard lane AND at the same time, be a good farmer, jungler, split pusher and a late game carry just like anti mage. IMO, lycan is the best hero for this job but still, what do you guys recommend?

    eclessia

      Any carry tbh

      MeePwn

        ^at your mmr, any carry can do, but at 4k, thats not the case

        cartel

          Sven/luna

          eclessia

            @op
            You missed the point
            If you spam a hero, basically you first pick that thing, right?
            If you can actually gain up to 3.8k by spamming antimage I'm sure it would be easier for you to grind with heroes who can actually pubstomp without playing against 9 people against you

            eclessia

              Come on
              AM is like one of the worst heroes to spam out there

              severe

                bloodseeker

                ねずみ

                  Invoker

                  Aethoeix

                    Any carry if u are playing better than 3.7-3.9k

                    Jack__Attack

                      Sven Luna ursa.

                      Cheap Laugh Guy

                        Sven and Bloodseeker

                        Zen

                          Who the fuck wants to carry in 3-4k dogshiet tier. Srsls dude, go offlane and win gamse.

                          Aethoeix

                            u mean if we put a 5k carry player into 3-4k tier he will fail to climb up?

                            1/2 smurf

                              @Juno 5k player will climb easily because of his strong mentality,4ks are so weak mentally,just pressure them and they are done.

                              Santeria

                                Antimage aether lens is legit to counter bs rupture
                                Kappa

                                Desolate

                                  LO BWS ANY HERO TO 7kl LETS GO

                                  Potato Marshal

                                    Spec if you have someone willing to babysit you. People barely know how to deal with her in this bracket.

                                    MeePwn

                                      @1/2 smurf, can you specifically teach me that "mentality" because I think that "pressuring" is my main problem and fear. If I get a pushing offlaner, I am unable to last hit under tower and then I just end up with 30 last hits by the 10 minute mark. Moreover, in mid-late game, I am always scared of the enemies like BS who will just rupture me and kill me easily

                                      Batatinha

                                        As a position 3 and 4 player i can tell that i'm strugling to deal with sven in my recent game.
                                        Also If my team doesn't have burst damage and i'm against a Necro i know we already lost if he isn't brain dead.

                                        kzom

                                          U DONT NEED ANOTHER CARRY, U DONT HAVE MAP AWARENESS ,BAD ITEMIZATION ,last am game u literaly die twice without a tp and he clearly walking with a ward in your lane, hope u improve i have the same mmr but ive not played in a week

                                          kormoranas

                                            i would say not a carry but rather support, since there are really lot of dotas without support in 4k, and at least i noticed that when supporting there is so much higher chance to win :)
                                            if you really want to carry, go offlane phoenix, mid broodmother or shit like that.

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                                            StanceWorks

                                              Bro just play Necro , especially when team has low burst. You'll win every game.

                                              MeePwn

                                                @Kzoom, I had already given up on that game and I was just wanting the enemy to end fast.

                                                Desolate

                                                  lol ur lycan sucks

                                                  u need to watch all map all game amd use howl and maxing howl passive first
                                                  its hard for 3k to watch map at all

                                                  so i recomend u to stop playing it

                                                  TNL.Jolly_Hotdog

                                                    any carry that can push and split push without relying on your team.

                                                    MeePwn

                                                      @lane its like my 3rd game as lycan. I'm kinda playing him like anti mage and really become annoyed when I can't push as fast as I can with anti mage. You are right, ever since I stopped playing anti mage, my split pushing and map watching skills have declined. =(

                                                      Desolate

                                                        ^ @op i recomnd u stop playin lycan unless u know to use howl when suports gank mid, pushing lane, fight or som1 is ganked etc but obv u dont know

                                                        stick with anti hes good , also slark, troll drow op too

                                                        Stentorian

                                                          viper mid.

                                                          i feel ashamed to have even mentioned viper.

                                                          kzom

                                                            @lord asbaat no u didnt

                                                            BASIIIIIIIIC

                                                              Just pick pa sure win

                                                              🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                ursa/blood are braindead easy now

                                                                meteor hammer

                                                                  URSA 100%

                                                                  General Asim Muneer

                                                                    arc warden working for me... luck is not... lost like 100 mmr to powercut today..also try midlane since carry requires a lot of space to get online

                                                                    meteor hammer

                                                                      carry requires a lot of space to get online

                                                                      thats why URSA WARRIOR is perfect. u can start fucking them immediately and never let up

                                                                      🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                        i'm pretty sure position 1 and 2 have been swapped in this meta

                                                                        General Asim Muneer

                                                                          @JDF8 ursa is good but i think the hero with more sieging power is better for climbing .. arc, meepo, voker can do both killing and pushing..

                                                                          meteor hammer

                                                                            just buy deso and u are GOOD TO GO

                                                                            yes meepo is always going to be the ultimate low mmr hero because he has the max farm potential and siege speed, meepo can get 2 lanes of rax before anyone tps if they are fighting somewhere else on the map

                                                                            BoomBoom

                                                                              I was reading this thread while queueing for 3k ranked match, then got matched with OP Lord Asbaat himself as my teammate lol, his Arc Warden and my Earth Spirit, we stomped, it was a good +25 mmr, and I have a feeling that Lord Asbaat is gonna reach 4k soon, and soon I follow as well.
                                                                              https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3367860275

                                                                              Batatinha

                                                                                ^
                                                                                https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3367860275

                                                                                Poor Sven bro, 2 ES as suports, none in his lane.

                                                                                nojzeR

                                                                                  Blood, necro,viper sometimes pa but those 3 are :bc_flex:

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                                                                                  evy

                                                                                    Any hero that I can't play will work

                                                                                    Khalilov

                                                                                      Look at his profile
                                                                                      Most hero use are tinker,arc warden,invoker and meepo

                                                                                      I bet 70% this kid using script

                                                                                      also jdf8

                                                                                        tinker in 4k 3k is hell if you are behind. ur guaranteed a win but it will take 60-70 minutes

                                                                                        also jdf8

                                                                                          https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3356243621

                                                                                          taking 56 mins to win a NORMAL SKILL game because nobody wants to push isnt my idea of a good time

                                                                                          0ddFella

                                                                                            just ask for solo safe necro, or go mid necro, or duo off necro. Like legit people in high 3k and low 4k just have no idea how the hero works.

                                                                                            I dropped from 4.9 to 4.1 cuz I kind of stopped caring and threw most of the games, but I breeze from 4k flat to 4.5 with that hero easily.

                                                                                            MonkaS

                                                                                              dazzle.

                                                                                              despair

                                                                                                Arc warden, you can solo kill players most of the time using him

                                                                                                MeePwn

                                                                                                  @Abdal, I like to play difficult heroes. Everyone isn't a scripter like you ^^

                                                                                                  GM

                                                                                                    play lc offlane ez wins..

                                                                                                    Star-Lord

                                                                                                      Lich for carry. Take +150 damage talent at lvl 20.