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Bill Cutting

    Looking for someone to coach me on mid mechanics and invoker specifically.

    Tired of being a 40% wr meme

    Can PayPal, ready to play from tonight 8pm Europe time.

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    Palmen aus Plastik

      you should try this 6k lad on youtube called asg.rawdota. Name's henry i think. His escaping the trench videos helped me out a lot. He's an awesome teacher. See for yourself on YouTube.

      Bill Cutting

        Really no one willing to coach me?

        Be a bro and help a bro

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          i'd coach you for free if you weren't from SA
          there's no secret trick though, just read up guides on the hero, watch players from high avg pubs and play a lot

          https://dotamastery.io
          ^this site's quite good for finding replays to watch

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          Beater Griffin

            if u want any tips or smth, ask me. Im only 3,6k but i think im a decent voker player.

            Beater Griffin

              u rlly just need to play a lot, u can try combos in ur test area. That helps me alot.

              .duDudu

                Yea you are decent ... In your bracket. But op is 2k so yeah

                Bill Cutting

                  My problem is often I come online too late.

                  I've practiced combos quite a lot and watched loads of replays.

                  Maybe just need to stick it out and play more.

                  Why don't u want to coach someone from South Africa? Same time zone

                  Bill Cutting

                    Hero match ups in mid lane is also something I struggle with, often get shut down against qop, viper, and other strong laners

                    I retreat to jungle and they just snowball killing my team mates

                    Beater Griffin

                      Some matchups are unwinnable for Invoker. Mids with good waveclear and escape like qop.
                      but if u reach lvl7 (3xquas3xexort1xwex) u are quite strong.
                      U can solokill them with meteor coldsnap // icewall colsnap forgespirts.
                      U can catch up ur farm in jungle, go back to lane if the creep wave push ur tower. get kills with Sunstrike.
                      and if u get ur aghs minute 16-20 u just get out of control ^^

                      Bill Cutting

                        is Midas core? Seen a few people skipping and getting treads

                        Beater Griffin

                          i always go midas, sure if u skip it u will have ur aghs aerlier then with. But the point is u need much more items. so i would say its defently core

                          CoL.Limmp

                            as laning stage u go null 2 branches or null faire and branch

                            when u pick rune buy tango and send cour( card if invis heroes snipe cour etx)

                            first mins of game lasthit is most important stage to get more lvl than enemie and have biger chsnce to kil him

                            never push a lane as voker cause hes shit and can be killed ez and if creeps are under tower with lvl 3 u allrdy can lasthit

                            if enemie for example pushed a lane and leaved 2 creeps coming to ur tower , try not to let those creeps go under tower but rather wait ur wave to come ( u will lose some hp cause of creeps but nvm)

                            place obs ward at min 4 cause it becomes night til min 8 so thats the time u can die very easy

                            dont trade hits early at lvl 1, 2 with enemie u gona push lane plus lose more hp than enemie

                            dont skip boots sticks/basilus and try go midas straight ( every 2nd game in 3k mmr i see this vokers)

                            never go phaese boots ,never go eul before agh
                            buy sticks or double null , bassilus if vs viper ta etc

                            drums are nice item on voker

                            u can skip midas going treads agh/blink try it and see whats better and easier for u

                            i usually at lvl 10 have 4 lvl quas 1 wex and 5 exort

                            lvl 4 quas make tornado 1.6 sec duration and sunstrike delay is 1.7

                            wex lvl 3 or 4 allrdy make EMP burn good mana and consider using it

                            combos when get agha

                            tornado ss emp blast /snap

                            tornado meatball emp / blast snap

                            why is snap sometimes betr than blast ??
                            cuase its 3 times less mana and blast is not needed always ,sometims snap do its job

                            tornado emp meatlball icewall

                            meatball eml blast icewall

                            tornado ss meatball snap/ blast

                            Bill Cutting

                              ^ Awesome, ty for the advice boys