@Mishi
Won a 1+ hour VHS game as a Winter Wvyern against Mega creeps and against all odds. That's impressive. Can't tell whether you made any insane plays without watching replay, but you didn't feed despite being a garbage hero and had decent game impact that late into the game. I think there being a PA on the other team gave your ultimate a favour and deleted anyone who is Winter's Cursed (that's a term). I guess the enemy got overconfident and tried to "gg mid" against megas but couldn't withstand Morphling and Medusa with Rapiers. Good shit.
I do think this game u shudnt have gone aghs and gone force first I'm
But this invoker was just way too shit, I think maybe u shud have tried to snowball best u can and become the core it just looked like a hard game.
Ghost scepter is also smth I wud consider
Other then that I don't rlly know what u cud do to win that match with injoker feeding like that, maybe u cud have killed mid but only if invoker knew what he was doing, which it doesn't look like.
listen analboi if u have a conflict with me then tell me why
u just start actually hating on me for no reason, just cuz i criticized smth or said smth dumb
i can steam message u or whatever, just settle it and move on
jeez
@FeelsBadMan your recent game was a complete dominance, neither veno or alch can't beat the shit out of you on laning phase. I think opponents can still throw a good fight if they knew who to switch lanes & role with proper item builds but u just stomp the shit out of them wp and nice KDA bro
Worst thing is he is a buddy of mine and we queued together. He always complained about no farm, but he afk followed enemy team while invis and died because they would have sentries and then he would shout: "How the fuck did they know???? HACKSSSS!!!!"
He isn't even new to the game, has like 2k games...
Items acquired at reasonable times, minus Assault because it looks like you got it right before you won (I know how that feels). At least I assume they are because I don't play Spirit Breaker, so I can't give exact ideal times.
So considering ur a support in a 47 min match u did ok, but considering how u were stomping u shudnt have died that many times
Force staff is imo the wrong defensive item, and u bought probably more wards than u realistically needed, in terms of obs.
The large amt of sentries was good.
So instead of force I wud go glimmer, as force doesn't rlly save anyone from rupture or pounce. also please buy raindrops
Don't start with magic stick, just get it from the side shop. U shud get 2 sets of tangoes and give 2 to ur mid, and start with windlace
Get boots before ring of Regen
Dominating performance by your team but it seems like you were held back by your lineup which made it hard for you to finish the game. You only had 195 last hits and your last big item was on 35 minutes so I assume your networth was spent defending the base through buy backs and trying to make space for your weaver.
Overall gj, you did what you could with the skillset Clinkz has. Idk if a blink would've done anything tbh but it seems good theoretically
@Yua
I dont usually abandon
i had internet parental control issues
dont judge
ok onto @fair and balanced's gameplay (see what i did there?)
seems like a tough sf game, especially against razor in lane
axe completely dismantled u guys, and your team lineup was really bad
im not sure what you cud have done to win this game tbh, especially with ur pa and tides builds
looks like an unwinnable game
Getting a 48 min BKB against that lineup meant you positioned very well during the match. The item build is suitable for the situation. You murdered a lot of people. Good pick versus enemy lineup.
Not the best kda and late battlefury, but considering you were laning against a silencer and kunkka, it's pretty decent. You also won against that lineup, which is nice.
Good farm at early game until min 13. But too low for SF to have a 200 cs for 40 min game. You should have not die that much with that kind of lineup the enemy have, the only stun they have is mirna, and it's not reliable. Could 'be end the game sooner with the lead you have in laning phase.
Looks like you were a rich position 4 veno. I dislike playing veno against their heroes (sniper and to a lesser degree rubick, null field is actually huge)
Your items and damage are good, although i would've built a blademail or halberd probably
VV I went for a kill on him and he lived with ~20 hp and i died, then I basically couldn't lane against him post-6. Kka+ Lich started sitting in his lane too so I basically had to jungle for a lot of the early game unfortunately
If i had gotten the first kill i think I would've won the lane
Last hitting is good given that you have 3 farm heavy cores (I really shouldn't be saying this to a blue star). MKB a decent pick up I guess because of the SC. By the minute you farmed the BKB the game was pretty much heavily in your favor. I'm curious regarding what happened during your laning stage versus Huskar since I rarely see them lane against each other.
You picked a hero low mmr people have no idea how to play against, you had an easy game, killed some heroes and farmed all game, your mk had a good time too. Now you went 17-2 and had some decent stats. You probably think you're good, while you're actually fucking bad, you just picked op hero that works very well against lower skilled players and requires 0 knowledge or skill to play, this hero has 3 fucking active spells 1 is to heal + deal dmg, 2nd you can't get hit and 3rd you delete 1 hero from half his hp, so you buy a dagon and delete someone every 40 seconds. Just a fucking joke man.
Good kda on sf, but you have a mid game oriented lineup, and they have harder cores than yours, should have ended when you had the chance, huskar fed like hell
Great stats overall, seems like you got the control of the game early on and kept it to the end, farming and pushing lanes our constantly. Your mid opponent seems to have been pretty rekt, probably with the help of nightstalker, so he never got the aghs to counter you. It also looks like your team won all lanes despite the enemy having SB, which is a recipe for disaster for the enemy team, and it shows.
Incredible shitstomp
Idk when the lycan and doom decided to sell items but it looks like u crushed them
I just am confused why u went solar, even if ur shitstomping I wud do it with deso
Same thing with heart, I feel like if ur gonna meme on em, do it with a mjollnir or smth
Doesn't rlly matter cuz of how hard u were winning but whatever.
^I get solar because I like getting medallion since it lets me win solo duels that would otherwise be impossible. I can also get medallion right after blink which means I can solo kill people right away, before waiting for 1k more gold to get blademail (which might not even help against some heroes, like doom).
When I get blademail as well, I can solo kill most heroes, can't really happen without the medallion if someone has a lot of hp but shit armor and doesn't hit THAT hard (like doom), so for about 3.4k gold (the price of deso) I get two items that let me kill people who have shit armor easier, while still dealing a lot of damage to people who hit hard, it's kind of best of the both worlds, and I think it is much better than getting a naked deso, especially if you have to run around and hit people, having the defensive medallion is often pretty good, too. With medallion and blademail I can choose to hit harder than if I had a deso, but at the same time, I can choose to have +13 armor pretty early in the game, and most heroes can't deal with that if their primary source of damage is physical.
Also, solar is much less expensive than a deso, and I can always disassemble solar to make halberd in case people start building linkens, so it is actually really good. I have 900+ games of legion and I have tried all sorts of shit. The +50 damage you get from deso is kind of actually shit on legion anyways, since you're spending 3500 gold mainly for -armor since legion should already have a lot of right click damage by the time you get your deso. Also, lvl 15 talent gives you +30 damage which makes the deso kind of obsolete in a lot of ways. The only thing deso has over solar for legion is that it reduces buildings's armor, but the way I play legion is, kill everyone first, then take buildings. I had 15k tower damage that game.
Also heart was just for the lulz, I was close to the secret shop and decided to buy something without having to go to base, not to mention heart made me absolutely immortal since I had about 60 armor with almost 4k HP.
TL;DR: I don't get the deso because it slows down my solo kill potential that I could have much faster, and I want to snowball as hard as possible, as early as possible.
@Your game: holy shit, SPECTRE, ANTIMAGE, and ALCHEMIST on the same team, two radiances (12 minutes apart, no less). Jesus, that's brilliant. You played mid am vs an arc and I guess the matchup is kinda good for you cause you never really have to care about any of his spells. It's actually a brilliant pick if you picked mid am to lane against arc, I think. And yeah, you went for the fighting build since you already had heavy farmers on your team, which was a smart move, obviously. Dunno, I gotta try that fighting build sometime, I hate am because I always feel I have to go battlefury and I hate the item with a passion.
^ye with boots oov u can burn all his Mana
Only problem is that creeps agro u, but i just buy salves and Regen and shit so it's not a problem
Shud have gone manta abyssal probably but I was fooling around so whatever
The biggest reason this worked is because no one else on the team cud do well against me either, morph, necro are also super weak, and they had little low CD catch.
Their team is almost entire physical damage with armor reduction, so your str stacking is pretty bad
instead of heart + crimson + reaver you would be 1000x better off with halberd+blademail+shiva+force or something similar.. far more mobile and higher damage output and still more physical EHP than what you have. crimson is almost always a junk item compared to HALBERD which is op right now
first of all im skipping the bane game cuz u had an abandon
i dont think there is really much reasonable insight when u have a ta + luna + tiny lane as ur safelane especially in ur bracket, even if its 5k
so im doing the nyx game
speaking of which, wtf, how did top lane go so bad for the enemy when ur a solo nyx
gr8 job, usually i dont like dagon, but when ur stomping that hard, and against a bloodseeker u can really explode him
i still think there were better options, and if i wud be in lp id kinda be tryharding to get out, but it wasnt the kinda retardation like boots into dagon into feed
i wudnt have gone midas, either blink, aether, or started dagon earlier, maybe even euls
gj tho and gl getting out of lp
@Mishi
Won a 1+ hour VHS game as a Winter Wvyern against Mega creeps and against all odds. That's impressive. Can't tell whether you made any insane plays without watching replay, but you didn't feed despite being a garbage hero and had decent game impact that late into the game. I think there being a PA on the other team gave your ultimate a favour and deleted anyone who is Winter's Cursed (that's a term). I guess the enemy got overconfident and tried to "gg mid" against megas but couldn't withstand Morphling and Medusa with Rapiers. Good shit.
I do think this game u shudnt have gone aghs and gone force first I'm
But this invoker was just way too shit, I think maybe u shud have tried to snowball best u can and become the core it just looked like a hard game.
Ghost scepter is also smth I wud consider
Other then that I don't rlly know what u cud do to win that match with injoker feeding like that, maybe u cud have killed mid but only if invoker knew what he was doing, which it doesn't look like.
^I would have been glad to hear anything from literally anyone else on DotaBuff except this guy.
@Anomalina
G - Nice name and profile picture
B - Lose to bot.
ROFL
listen analboi if u have a conflict with me then tell me why
u just start actually hating on me for no reason, just cuz i criticized smth or said smth dumb
i can steam message u or whatever, just settle it and move on
jeez
@FeelsBadMan your recent game was a complete dominance, neither veno or alch can't beat the shit out of you on laning phase. I think opponents can still throw a good fight if they knew who to switch lanes & role with proper item builds but u just stomp the shit out of them wp and nice KDA bro
G: 56% WR
B: UR FUCKING PROFILE PIC GAVE ME CANCER
Seems like you guys dominated. Good itemization. You can maybe increase farm a bit more, but besides that good game.
Nice Support, good kill participation. clinkz reported, 90 cs.
@MooNiE
Worst thing is he is a buddy of mine and we queued together. He always complained about no farm, but he afk followed enemy team while invis and died because they would have sentries and then he would shout: "How the fuck did they know???? HACKSSSS!!!!"
He isn't even new to the game, has like 2k games...
Items acquired at reasonable times, minus Assault because it looks like you got it right before you won (I know how that feels). At least I assume they are because I don't play Spirit Breaker, so I can't give exact ideal times.
So considering ur a support in a 47 min match u did ok, but considering how u were stomping u shudnt have died that many times
Force staff is imo the wrong defensive item, and u bought probably more wards than u realistically needed, in terms of obs.
The large amt of sentries was good.
So instead of force I wud go glimmer, as force doesn't rlly save anyone from rupture or pounce. also please buy raindrops
Don't start with magic stick, just get it from the side shop. U shud get 2 sets of tangoes and give 2 to ur mid, and start with windlace
Get boots before ring of Regen
Don't abandon.
Dominating performance by your team but it seems like you were held back by your lineup which made it hard for you to finish the game. You only had 195 last hits and your last big item was on 35 minutes so I assume your networth was spent defending the base through buy backs and trying to make space for your weaver.
Overall gj, you did what you could with the skillset Clinkz has. Idk if a blink would've done anything tbh but it seems good theoretically
Seems like you just went god mode; incredible damage, excellent KDA, overall a great game.
@Yua
I dont usually abandon
i had internet parental control issues
dont judge
ok onto @fair and balanced's gameplay (see what i did there?)
seems like a tough sf game, especially against razor in lane
axe completely dismantled u guys, and your team lineup was really bad
im not sure what you cud have done to win this game tbh, especially with ur pa and tides builds
looks like an unwinnable game
Enemy 322 so hard lul, good kda on morphling.
id rather u have lance+deso or diffusal than this linkens rush, but you would lose either way as its a complete stomp and they are far ahead
id recommend not picking weaver against shaker + qop
Getting a 48 min BKB against that lineup meant you positioned very well during the match. The item build is suitable for the situation. You murdered a lot of people. Good pick versus enemy lineup.
Dank NeqroMeMecer lovin that deso purchase playa
Pretty good Invoker game! Nice GPM/XPM
bad gpm with alche imo
Not the best kda and late battlefury, but considering you were laning against a silencer and kunkka, it's pretty decent. You also won against that lineup, which is nice.
Good farm at early game until min 13. But too low for SF to have a 200 cs for 40 min game. You should have not die that much with that kind of lineup the enemy have, the only stun they have is mirna, and it's not reliable. Could 'be end the game sooner with the lead you have in laning phase.
29 Assists :pogchamp: blood bath gaem. Nice!
Looks like you were a rich position 4 veno. I dislike playing veno against their heroes (sniper and to a lesser degree rubick, null field is actually huge)
Your items and damage are good, although i would've built a blademail or halberd probably
VV I went for a kill on him and he lived with ~20 hp and i died, then I basically couldn't lane against him post-6. Kka+ Lich started sitting in his lane too so I basically had to jungle for a lot of the early game unfortunately
If i had gotten the first kill i think I would've won the lane
Last hitting is good given that you have 3 farm heavy cores (I really shouldn't be saying this to a blue star). MKB a decent pick up I guess because of the SC. By the minute you farmed the BKB the game was pretty much heavily in your favor. I'm curious regarding what happened during your laning stage versus Huskar since I rarely see them lane against each other.
You picked a hero low mmr people have no idea how to play against, you had an easy game, killed some heroes and farmed all game, your mk had a good time too. Now you went 17-2 and had some decent stats. You probably think you're good, while you're actually fucking bad, you just picked op hero that works very well against lower skilled players and requires 0 knowledge or skill to play, this hero has 3 fucking active spells 1 is to heal + deal dmg, 2nd you can't get hit and 3rd you delete 1 hero from half his hp, so you buy a dagon and delete someone every 40 seconds. Just a fucking joke man.
^ that's the point, I play Necro to win
someone is triggered xd
@OpenAI (Bot)
Ez mid and rip OD cuz Raijin is 2fast4him
sven would've got easy teamfights this game as the farm was real bad on sven. you died a lot on troll tho, and had really less farm.
Not a good kda on slark, but considering you won against a fed pa who got an 11 minute deso, I'd say the game was a success.
Good kda on sf, but you have a mid game oriented lineup, and they have harder cores than yours, should have ended when you had the chance, huskar fed like hell
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3469522213
@Abyss Watcher : Nice game, is that visage last pick man ?
not a long game
Well played, crush lane and snowball and stomp the game. The blademail ensured nobody could touch you and the game was basically over once you got rad
With the exception of nyx, it's a really good necro game too
Great stats overall, seems like you got the control of the game early on and kept it to the end, farming and pushing lanes our constantly. Your mid opponent seems to have been pretty rekt, probably with the help of nightstalker, so he never got the aghs to counter you. It also looks like your team won all lanes despite the enemy having SB, which is a recipe for disaster for the enemy team, and it shows.
Incredible shitstomp
Idk when the lycan and doom decided to sell items but it looks like u crushed them
I just am confused why u went solar, even if ur shitstomping I wud do it with deso
Same thing with heart, I feel like if ur gonna meme on em, do it with a mjollnir or smth
Doesn't rlly matter cuz of how hard u were winning but whatever.
^I get solar because I like getting medallion since it lets me win solo duels that would otherwise be impossible. I can also get medallion right after blink which means I can solo kill people right away, before waiting for 1k more gold to get blademail (which might not even help against some heroes, like doom).
When I get blademail as well, I can solo kill most heroes, can't really happen without the medallion if someone has a lot of hp but shit armor and doesn't hit THAT hard (like doom), so for about 3.4k gold (the price of deso) I get two items that let me kill people who have shit armor easier, while still dealing a lot of damage to people who hit hard, it's kind of best of the both worlds, and I think it is much better than getting a naked deso, especially if you have to run around and hit people, having the defensive medallion is often pretty good, too. With medallion and blademail I can choose to hit harder than if I had a deso, but at the same time, I can choose to have +13 armor pretty early in the game, and most heroes can't deal with that if their primary source of damage is physical.
Also, solar is much less expensive than a deso, and I can always disassemble solar to make halberd in case people start building linkens, so it is actually really good. I have 900+ games of legion and I have tried all sorts of shit. The +50 damage you get from deso is kind of actually shit on legion anyways, since you're spending 3500 gold mainly for -armor since legion should already have a lot of right click damage by the time you get your deso. Also, lvl 15 talent gives you +30 damage which makes the deso kind of obsolete in a lot of ways. The only thing deso has over solar for legion is that it reduces buildings's armor, but the way I play legion is, kill everyone first, then take buildings. I had 15k tower damage that game.
Also heart was just for the lulz, I was close to the secret shop and decided to buy something without having to go to base, not to mention heart made me absolutely immortal since I had about 60 armor with almost 4k HP.
TL;DR: I don't get the deso because it slows down my solo kill potential that I could have much faster, and I want to snowball as hard as possible, as early as possible.
@Your game: holy shit, SPECTRE, ANTIMAGE, and ALCHEMIST on the same team, two radiances (12 minutes apart, no less). Jesus, that's brilliant. You played mid am vs an arc and I guess the matchup is kinda good for you cause you never really have to care about any of his spells. It's actually a brilliant pick if you picked mid am to lane against arc, I think. And yeah, you went for the fighting build since you already had heavy farmers on your team, which was a smart move, obviously. Dunno, I gotta try that fighting build sometime, I hate am because I always feel I have to go battlefury and I hate the item with a passion.
^ye with boots oov u can burn all his Mana
Only problem is that creeps agro u, but i just buy salves and Regen and shit so it's not a problem
Shud have gone manta abyssal probably but I was fooling around so whatever
The biggest reason this worked is because no one else on the team cud do well against me either, morph, necro are also super weak, and they had little low CD catch.
Guessing you owned mid hard and he abandoned?
Nice sf game, but I think you just let sniper get way too farmed and he pew-pew'd all of you to death
the level of salt i feel about my game is beyond everything
5 man carry + abandoned
That game was intensed! Wrong move and you will lost the game.
Nice RP! Nice setting on early game.
Meepo at dire is so good player though, feel sorry for dire well radiant team is just better.
Their team is almost entire physical damage with armor reduction, so your str stacking is pretty bad
instead of heart + crimson + reaver you would be 1000x better off with halberd+blademail+shiva+force or something similar.. far more mobile and higher damage output and still more physical EHP than what you have. crimson is almost always a junk item compared to HALBERD which is op right now
first of all im skipping the bane game cuz u had an abandon
i dont think there is really much reasonable insight when u have a ta + luna + tiny lane as ur safelane especially in ur bracket, even if its 5k
so im doing the nyx game
speaking of which, wtf, how did top lane go so bad for the enemy when ur a solo nyx
gr8 job, usually i dont like dagon, but when ur stomping that hard, and against a bloodseeker u can really explode him
i still think there were better options, and if i wud be in lp id kinda be tryharding to get out, but it wasnt the kinda retardation like boots into dagon into feed
i wudnt have gone midas, either blink, aether, or started dagon earlier, maybe even euls
gj tho and gl getting out of lp
Looks like a stomp; excellent kda on slark, great gpm/xpm, all around a good game.