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Its.A.Trap!

    1st lol

    Banana

      Moonshard is a very good item for OD. More attack speed = more hits = more intel. The night vision also helps for ganking.

      EULA

        Meta! elegiggle

        Zagzy.TTV

          Midas > treads > blink > atos > AC; BoT or switch Atos for Scythe, then oct core for your 6th item.

          Edu .

            One touch pls

            Jeyar

              5th 123456789

              clown milk

                he's frustrating af, might be pretty balanced but less fun to play against than techies right now.

                Dexy

                  AM doesn't counter OD, it's actually the other way around. OD has pure damage, he's always high mana because of Essence Aura which keeps him and his team much safer from high damage mana voids.

                  Even on Dotabuff, AM is No. 8 for heroes which OD is best versus.

                  Possum_BajaBlast

                    Whenever I play OD lately, I generally go treads into Drums and Dragon Lance, then something like BKB or Orchid or Blink depending on the game

                    kenpachiajax

                      Antimage does not counter OD. He never runs out of mana.

                      Hukallulus

                        "AM doesn't counter OD, it's actually the other way around. OD has pure damage, he's always high mana because of Essence Aura which keeps him and his team much safer from high damage mana voids.
                        Even on Dotabuff, AM is No. 8 for heroes which OD is best versus."

                        This, is why you need more qualified staff to do a stats based write up. Socks you need to think smarter not harder.

                        Sure AM can kill OD easily with lockdown (his own via basher/abyssal or his team) but OD also has a team to avoid that exact situation.

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                        just ary

                          Od has been one of my best heroes ever since, i prefer ghost scepter over bkb,gives me more gold to rush scythe of vyse.

                          Hukallulus

                            Ghost scepter is why you play normal skill games.

                            RedRover

                              @Huka "This, is why you need more qualified staff to do a stats based write up. Socks you need to think smarter not harder.
                              Sure AM can kill OD easily with lockdown (his own via basher/abyssal or his team) but OD also has a team to avoid that exact situation."

                              What? Are you arguing OD beats AM? Cause if you are then you're agreeing with whatever you quoted...

                              K33n3r

                                Somebody's on a character assassination spree

                                N!nj@ [A§§]@$[§¡n]

                                  How about ghost scepter combined with BKB?Is it will make any hero become invulnerable?

                                  frances maya

                                    Ghost form will stop if you activate BKB.

                                    I agree he's stronger now, but bkb and silences still make him cry

                                    Nyanthus

                                      They forgot to mention Silencer as a counter.

                                      Jabba the Mutt

                                        kind of a weak item choice on the hero, but an OC will give more imprisons, blinks and ults, as well as nice stats and it also life steals with orb. kind of gimmicky but you can break it down for a hex or shivas later if it is doing nothing for you.

                                        hecate

                                          nerf this OP shit pls

                                          American Tragedy

                                            OD is quite good and awesome and there is nothing you can do about it. BLING*

                                            Chaoshype

                                              Atos and Orchid; happy ganking bro. Also, Drum of Endurance is pretty underrated for a good reason, it has a pretty average price-to-performance ratio.

                                              Синячий патруль

                                                am counters od? really? omg kek wow

                                                Ice Bear 牛逼

                                                  The average player, after learning the skill and item build for a hero doesn't change it for ever and apparently only reads the changelog to whine on discussion pages after getting rekt.
                                                  We still have Vladmir as Ursa most common item, despite it's being around 2 years that it is not UAM anymore.
                                                  So I would be more surprised if people actually put few levels on Astral Imprisonment.

                                                  Schrödinger's Böner

                                                    Always pick OD on sea server when everyone goes full carry >_< Dem ints gonna be so good

                                                    House Cat

                                                      I love OD <3

                                                      J_A_P_G

                                                        >AM counters OD
                                                        Tip top kek.
                                                        OD is probably AM's hardest counter because he simply never runs out of mana.

                                                        Sharky

                                                          to Marconidas: But Vladimir on Ursa it there because it has benefits early, mid game(not just for you, for team as well). Ofc skillbuilds depend what is needed in team, but as a carry you prefer arcane orb all the way(int steal/plus dmg, also int.steal=more powerful ult)...here comes your support if you want lock down or whatever else is needed.

                                                          [troll] Feed Afk

                                                            Except for a Skadi or OC or something like that, how is MKB inferior damage-wise compared to stats items? It is a glass cannon item with no defensive stats, that is true, but it still gives more expected damage per orb hit than Atos, and it even gives some attack speed. Doesn't give damage on ult, however.

                                                            [Stormrage]

                                                              I understand where you guys are coming from with the AM vs OD thing but I think that the fact that OD never runs out of mana is actually what makes him semi vulnerable to AM, as antimage will always be able to burn his mana. The only reason that it would be bad for am would be his ulti but AM would do/does way more damage to someone ( with only right clicks) if that person never ran out of mana which is the case with OD. As soon as someone is out of mana antimage does allot less damage (around 40 less) per hit so having that always on makes him a bit better.

                                                              Eden

                                                                I like to get a midas on OD into treads, force, orchid and then i get the standard scythe or shivas or atos. I also always get octarine because then the ult is a full heal.

                                                                Strygwyr

                                                                  i pick am against od a lot. and it works really good. it is true that od doenst run out of mana by himself but if u blink-abyssal-manta-hit him he is out of mana really fast and then just ult him.
                                                                  also if u buy an early butterfly and just run at him and hit him he cant do much bec of the misschance and u do tons of damage bec there is lot of mana to burn like Stromrage mentioned.

                                                                  kayeskay

                                                                    With the amount of mana and mana regen OD has i bet that by the time OD has low enough mana for a worthwhile mana void from AM, he'll either be dead or on low enough health to just kill him with a couple more hits

                                                                    Osama blin dagger

                                                                      why even lvl the passive at lvl 1 ._. it's not like he can cast anything...cuz u know he only has it

                                                                      Zeviel

                                                                        @melvin well if u lv arcane orb first u gonna out of mana very fast. While lvl the passive at lv 1 could help team at rune war.

                                                                        Conall

                                                                          I really believe 1-3-1-3-2-3 is the best way to spend your first 6 points, don't see any point in any other skill build...

                                                                          only except might be lv3 taking imprison vs dodgeable stuns, but generally if that's happening and you feel like you need the point, you are up against a team of roaming gankers or bounty + voker or something, in which case RIP.

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                                                                            Longrat

                                                                              AC is a respectable choice for OD if the enemy has high physical damage. It's a decent pickup instead of shiva's if you need that extra durability over the increased damage output of the +30 int.

                                                                              ThunderWarrior

                                                                                Why would you get essence aura 1st level?

                                                                                paQs

                                                                                  I think it's sometimes maybe for the team.

                                                                                  to the edge of oblivion

                                                                                    According to Dotabuff OD counters AM tho.

                                                                                    Gen Blower

                                                                                      Dotabuff stats are based on pubs, are you seriously referencing them as an absolute?
                                                                                      AM + manta + abyssal = dead od + dead OD team around him. Yes, am dies to od too very hard, but saying AM ISNT good against OD is dumb. Even if OD is hitting things and getting his mana back that just guarentees AM's mana break damage. AM vs OD is kinda like morph vs antimage, theyre both good against each other.

                                                                                      The Black Cock

                                                                                        AM + Basher + manta = dead OD
                                                                                        AM + manta = Dead AM
                                                                                        OD Orb deal bonus damage to illusion/spawned unit, and it'll very ez to kill AM

                                                                                        buriza

                                                                                          Bkb against am solves the problem of blink-abysal-manta-mana break combo...mana burn doing a lot of damage...so The fight could be damn even

                                                                                          Immaculatebacon

                                                                                            1) No octarine mention?
                                                                                            2) OD can often be around half mana. Which is about 1000 missing mana. Which is a lot of damage in a mana void. Ant mage doesnt even have to go near him in the fight, or he can just buy a bkb.

                                                                                            Wayne

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